Which Diffs?

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

Ok so I need some new diffs for my savage what would be the best to get?

Yeah I know cens are really good but what else out there will hold up?

Also will flux ones work in a nitro savage?

 

[Combuster]

the flux diffs are the same as the XL diffs the only difference is the flux diffs come in a supposedly stronger case to prevent flexing. but if you want bullet proof diffs get cen for sure

 

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

The only thing I don't like about the cens is what you have to do to them to make them fit...

 

[Combuster]

well in that case i would say that the flux or xl diffs is the best only down side is you have to buy new axles because these use different size dogbones. or you could buy some x diffs and make sure you shim them before you install them

 

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

I think thats the route Ill go it will be cheaper then cens to. But then which ones flux or xl?

 

[Combuster]

i would say the flux just because it has the new case

 

[wildchild27]

if you want cen diffs without making them ur self then i would talk to BADAZZ_SAVAGE you can shoot him a PM to get some info.:jamout:

 

[frddyj]

id get x ss diffs before xl. theyre about $20 on the bay http://cgi.ebay.com/Savage-X-SS-Differential-HARDENED-CUPS-ALUM-DIFF-CASE_W0QQitemZ330315357812QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item330315357812&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

 

[Combuster]

i would get the X SS because it would be cheaper and if they are shimmed properly they are probably just as good as xl diffs

 

[Larsenracing]

All ya need is the Ring and pinion from the XL or Flux as they are machined instead of Casted. Much stronger this way.

 

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

So the x ss ones are the way to go?

 

[wildchild27]

i bought complete xss diffs in the bulkheads for 31and some change shipped off ebay.

 

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

From a store or just a regular guy if you have a store link that would be sweet

 

[Combuster]

all the x ss diffs are going for that much i got some from nitronuttz a while back for $30 shipped on ebay .

 

[wildchild27]

i have a link lemme find it

 

[wildchild27]

http://myworld.ebay.com/plcman1/ check him out he ships realy fast and has great deals too

 

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

Thanks wildchild! Ill be getting some when I get some more R/C funds flowing

 

[frddyj]

+1 on plcman1, bought a lot of stuff from him & excellent transaction every time.


imo, your diff life is gonna depend largely on shimming; about 8 of us bash regular together & a dude with an xl is the only one that has wasted 2 diffs. he has not shimmed them.

 

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

So its not the diff that will be weak it will be on how well its shimmed?

 

[frddyj]

read this thread big boi https://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9865

 

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

Yeah I know that but if you have shimmed diffs and done right how strong will they be, any were near the cens?

 

[frddyj]

Yeah I know that but if you have shimmed diffs and done right how strong will they be, any were near the cens?

kinda hard to answer that one: a bad mesh will contribute to you grenading a diff & my experience with the X diffs is they never exploded & i shimmed them. the cen diff is completely different, but if you don't shim them right, you'll grenade those too.

here are a couple pics so you can see the differences between stock & cen

Cen on top, Hpi on bottom VVV

 

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

I think that ill go with x ss diffs and if I have any problems it will be cens. Unless you guys really think the cens would be worth it.

 

[frddyj]

I think that ill go with x ss diffs and if I have any problems it will be cens. Unless you guys really think the cens would be worth it.

definately worth it if you shim 'em right

 

[big scott]

is there any info on what needs to be done to fit the cen diffs??? and do i just use the ring and pinion from the cen?? if so can i use a alum. diff case?? sorry guys I'm not new to rc by any means but I'm building a savage 25 that has just about every upgrade on it and trying to make it bullet proof.

and i now the savage does not need all whats on mine but this is how i got it so I'm going with it lol lol.

there are 2 things i have to do..

1- get a better clutch setup

2- rebuild the diffs. so I'm going to upgrade to what is best.

so please help with this delima. thanks..

 

[wildchild27]

the cen ring gear is smaller in diameter and you would need the whole diff for the mod.if I'm correct lol

 

[big scott]

wanter if tower hobbys has these parts needed.

i read the the dog bone pins need to be changed to use the cen diff asy. were can i get the drive pins??

 

[Travis Mowery]

i talked to chris lugos from hpi earlier and he said that the flux ones are stronger then the xls and there like 40 bucks and the only thing is that he told me is that you have to put a new bearing in the output shaft to the drive shaft

 

[wildchild27]

you don't need to change the pins just change the diff cups.