Savage 25 to Brushless conversion

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Hi All,

I have a Savage 25, which I would like to convert to brushless. I have a Mamba Monster 2 ESC and motor setup which was in my upgraded E-Maxx. But since I snapped the chassis on the E-Maxx, I would like to put it in the Savage.

So I have seen a few ideas online, such as the Kershaw Designs http://kershawdesigns.com/SavageBrushlessConversion.htm but it seems that they have closed up shop.
Is anyone aware of other options that are available? I am also OK with 2nd hand too if need be. It seems to be that spares for the Savage 25 and its upgrade parts are becoming a little few and far between.

Thanks!
 

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If you are planning on doing this with a 25 savage you may want to think about upgrading the differentials at the very least, putting electric power to stock stuff will for sure tear up the gears and internals, and yes Kershaw is gone because Dan died last year and his stuff is no longer in production so maybe look to Alza Racing or Innovative R/C for what you will need to complete this project....
 
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Morning,
Thanks for the info, pity about Dan passing on.
Upgrading the differentials etc I don't think will be a big issue, as the standard fair of savage parts are still ok to come by.

It's the specialist type parts such as a motor mount that will fit the motor that I have and to the savage chassis without the need for any sort of permanent modification which are hard to find.
I will look on those sites in more detail on my PC, looked on my mobile and didn't find much with the exception of
http://shop.alza-racing.com/en/flux-standard/1-motor-mount.html?search_query=Savage&results=32
But need to see if it will fit.

If there are any other ideas, or shops that other members have. Please share.

Thanks once again
 
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I did the 25 to brushless conversion using hpi parts. It turned out great BUT a lot has to be upgraded to handle the brushless power. And sometimes if you upgrade one thing it isn’t compatible with older parts like the diff’s teeth are different on the bulletproof ones and will need a new gear, see the pic. The plastic diff cups / housing can’t handle the power either. I’ll post a pic. You also can’t use the flux motor mount without upgrading the motor mount plate, which forces you to upgrade the chassis. And so on and so so on. Don’t get me wrong, I love it!! But it did end up costing a lot more than I initially planned.
 

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Another thing, don’t waste your time on the integy brushless motor mount it’s for a 540 can size motor. I couldn’t tell before ordering it. I wish I had checked out Alza racing before I did my conversation.
 

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Another thing, don’t waste your time on the integy brushless motor mount it’s for a 540 can size motor. I couldn’t tell before ordering it. I wish I had checked out Alza racing before I did my conversation.
Integy has 2 of them don't they? One that bolts on the front kind of weird and another that is a direct replacement for the stock brushless clamp style mount. Or is there a 3rd?

This is the flux replacement one, not a conversion, just bands to replace the stock ones: https://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=15249&p_catid=267&ratesortby=New#.WouqNudG1HY

The other I can't find a link for, but it's what they call a "brushless conversion", part T6941.


I tried buying the kershaw conversion as well last year. I ordered the entire kit with motor/esc, mount and battery trays. Then I waited a few weeks and nothing ever showed. That's when I found out about Dan being sick. I gave it a bit more time, then asked if I could get a refund, which I got a few weeks later. Then I found a used flux hp on ebay and went that route.

That said, I'm eyeballing the alza center diff setup for my flux... I don't know if that bolts directly into a non-flux chassis or not, but the motor bolts directly to it. They also offer battery trays, but you would have to figure out how to lock your transmission in 2nd so it didn't have reverse, or figure out if a flux trans would fit, then get that.
 

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I take that back then lol. I didn’t know about the one you posted. I’m bummed I didn’t see that months ago
Well, I'm hoping it's a replacement for the stock motor as I just ordered one so I can modify one of the clamps to fit the 1515 in there. I'm going to try the Mamba Monster X with the HPI Torq motor first, guessing it will work... hoping it will work. Then I'll modify one of the clamps to fit the 1515 in there later if the Torq starts failing on me.

My only reason for buying the MMX/1515 was to get an ESC that was waterproof. Will keep the old ESC as a spare. Well, my wife bought me the MMX/1515 combo for my b-day which is in a few weeks, but I wanted to be prepared for when I get it. :)
 
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I read a post somewhere here recently that Kershaw designs may be reopening, you may want to look at them again before trying the intergy stuff. I tried the ones you linked but they are for a small 540 can motor.
 

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I read a post somewhere here recently that Kershaw designs may be reopening, you may want to look at them again before trying the intergy stuff. I tried the ones you linked but they are for a small 540 can motor.

They are, as Nova Racing Products. Their online shop still isn't up yet though.

https://www.novarc.net/
 
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I contact with the Integy SAT and these are their answers to their kits:

"C23712 is the first version, C24038 is the most current version ... both are compatible with a Savage .25"

"The motor plate is designed for 540-550 type motors only, or 1/8 motors with a compatible 540/550 type mounting bolt pattern."

@Nadboo, you were right, only for small engines.

@X, the website is not operational and nobody answers on Facebook, so ... I think I'll end up throwing the Savage and buying another one (I'm looking at Traxxas, Arrma or HPI)
 

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I contact with the Integy SAT and these are their answers to their kits:

"C23712 is the first version, C24038 is the most current version ... both are compatible with a Savage .25"

"The motor plate is designed for 540-550 type motors only, or 1/8 motors with a compatible 540/550 type mounting bolt pattern."

@Nadboo, you were right, only for small engines.

@X, the website is not operational and nobody answers on Facebook, so ... I think I'll end up throwing the Savage and buying another one (I'm looking at Traxxas, Arrma or HPI)
You could always make up your own brushless / center diff conversion. I have done it with my savage and have had great results (y)
 
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Thanks @Savage 6768.

If I had a drawing, I could still do it if it's not very complicated. But honestly, I am in a moment of my life, in which time is scarce and I prefer to go to the easy.
 
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I converted my 25 to brushless then to 1/5 scale ... don’t even want to think about how much I spent ... brushless can get pricey not to mentioned all the upgrades u need to do so it can handle the new power

Alza center diff is prob the best that’s what I have
 
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