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Not much you can do without using extended hexes and those are bad for the axle bearing in general, but those tires are HUGE for a stock type savage......
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That’s what I was afraid of... the diameter of the tire isn’t much bigger then stock. They are quite a bit wider though.
I think I’ll just return them... dang it!!
They’re the Duratrax six pack 3.8.
I thought they were supposed to fit the savage. Can you recommend something?
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Doesn't look like Duratrax offers a deeper offset, I know the RPM Wheels come in 1/2 inch offsets called the stablemaxx series but you will have to mount your tires onto the wheels...I am running a set of RPM Stablemaxx wheels in 17mm hex on my Savage with ProLine Mulchers mounted on them..... Also they are a 3.2 wheel so standard tires are needed....
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Does moving your shocks to the innermost mounting hole on the shock towers give you enough clearance?
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No, that is only dealing with the top of the shock, where you need clearance is at the bottom Moving the top is going to affect how soft or hard the suspension feels on compression and rebound....
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Yeah thats true. It only moves them very slightly.
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I just run the HPI extended stubs on both of my savage's (Flux HP and X). My trenchers 3.8's on my flux are zero offset and won't fit without pushing them out a bit. Not really seeing any difference regarding bearing life. I run zero offset tires on my X as well.
I don't run stock hex's anymore though. I modified some cheap extended 17mm ones so that the extended part took up the space the spacer used and I put the pin right through where the hex is so the wheel holds it on. Got tired of breaking the HPI flange nuts.
I did it on my flux out of necessity as I snapped the threaded end off one in a crash. For the other 3, I had to drill holes up the wheel nut as it was a cap type so the threaded shaft could stick out.
Liked it so much I did the same for my X:
The X with those hubs on extended axle stubs and zero offset trenchers:
The tires on the X were making it hard for me to figure out a tuning issue so I put some smaller/lighter ones on. I think I have it good now, so may put them back on... not sure. I like the snappy feel of the lighter tires. The flux has the torque to be snappy regardless. lol!
I don't run stock hex's anymore though. I modified some cheap extended 17mm ones so that the extended part took up the space the spacer used and I put the pin right through where the hex is so the wheel holds it on. Got tired of breaking the HPI flange nuts.
I did it on my flux out of necessity as I snapped the threaded end off one in a crash. For the other 3, I had to drill holes up the wheel nut as it was a cap type so the threaded shaft could stick out.
Liked it so much I did the same for my X:
The X with those hubs on extended axle stubs and zero offset trenchers:
The tires on the X were making it hard for me to figure out a tuning issue so I put some smaller/lighter ones on. I think I have it good now, so may put them back on... not sure. I like the snappy feel of the lighter tires. The flux has the torque to be snappy regardless. lol!
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That looks great!I just run the HPI extended stubs on both of my savage's (Flux HP and X). My trenchers 3.8's on my flux are zero offset and won't fit without pushing them out a bit. Not really seeing any difference regarding bearing life. I run zero offset tires on my X as well.
I don't run stock hex's anymore though. I modified some cheap extended 17mm ones so that the extended part took up the space the spacer used and I put the pin right through where the hex is so the wheel holds it on. Got tired of breaking the HPI flange nuts.
I did it on my flux out of necessity as I snapped the threaded end off one in a crash. For the other 3, I had to drill holes up the wheel nut as it was a cap type so the threaded shaft could stick out.
Liked it so much I did the same for my X:
The X with those hubs on extended axle stubs and zero offset trenchers:
The tires on the X were making it hard for me to figure out a tuning issue so I put some smaller/lighter ones on. I think I have it good now, so may put them back on... not sure. I like the snappy feel of the lighter tires. The flux has the torque to be snappy regardless. lol!
Are these the extenders you’re using?
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Yes. However, those work with the Super HD bones. The cups are larger ID/OD to fit the larger bones. I have the SuperHD bones/cups on both my flux hp and savage x.
The XL, Flux HP, FLux XL and Octane all used the larger bones I believe. The X on down to the 21 used smaller bones.
If you have an X, you can use these parts to convert to the super hd bones:
https://rc4me.us/product/hpisav8020/
https://rc4me.us/product/hpi86249/
https://rc4me.us/product/hpi86246/
The large cups didn't work on the pre-X diff halves as the holes in the gearbox weren't large enough for them to fit through. I found that out the hard way many years ago when I had the older style savage and I was running alloy gear boxes. I had ordered take off BP diffs for the XL off ebay only to find out the stupid cups wouldn't fit and I had to tear the diffs down and use my old output cups.
From 2008 on a savage I don't have anymore:
But since the X, they have used the newer style diff case/gearbox that splits from the back instead of down the middle, so the larger cup works in them.
I only mention any of that because I can't tell which version you have from the photo's.
