TCS extended TVPs

[Ascender]

Not thrilled with the machining on these. I had to grind down both ends of the left side, and adjust the left rear joint-post screw and stud holes to get them to fit, and one of the radio box screw holes wasn't quite all the way through.

Now, for the reasons I'm still recommending these for everybody except the shelf queens:
They're still the same 6061-T6 aluminum as the standard-length TCS TVPs, so they're still extraordinarily tough.
They use a stock XL rear dogbone, no aftermarket or hard to find dogbones needed.
They still have the same counter-bored hardware locations to allow the use of all stock screws.
They have built-in screw locations to install the TCS optional ESC mount, which moves the ESC off of the top of the left TVP and down behind the motor between the TVPs.
The plate itself is made of Delrin, sits on two HPI aluminum crossbraces, and has a mounting locations for the power switch on the right side. It's the cleanest looking relocation of the ESC that I've seen yet, although the ESC/receiver wire does have to be rerouted or extended.

After a day of light track bashing, I can say that it's a totally different truck. All the annoying habits are gone, like swapping ends at the slightest provocation, dropping the tail in jumps, and cartwheeling long distances on bad landings. Cornering is now stable and predictable, and the tail stays tucked. A little throttle gave me a nice controllable oversteer to drift through tight corners. In the air, the truck stays flat with minimal corrections, but still responds instantly to throttle input. And when I do hit that bad landing, the truck settles down quickly instead of cartwheeling 50 feet down the track.

Here's the links for everything needed for the full conversion, including ESC plate:
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/TCS-XL-Chassis-for-the-HPI-Savage-Flux-HP-p-17948.html
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/HPI-Dogbone-8x142mm-Black-86054-p-17818.html
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/TCS-Crawlers-ESC-Plate-for-TCS-Flux-XL-chassis-p-17922.html
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/HPI-Engine-Mount-Brace-7x7x74mm-2pcs-86079-p-17830.html
http://www.tcscrawlers.com/HPI-Binder-Head-Screw-M4x10mm-6pcs-Z613-p-17678.html

 

[frddyj]

ace how you like the flux going from stock to ext? what differences did you notice?

which length you prefer on the flux?

 

[frddyj]

ps. what truck body you runnin on there. looks sweet can we see a few more pics, side, front, back :stickpoke:

 

[Ascender]

It's a Parma Xciter for the E-Revo/Revo3.3. It's insanely tough, thickest Lexan I've come across on a 1/8 body. I'll put up a thread in the bodies section.
https://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=144057#post144057

When I had the stock TVPs, or the standard length TCS TVPs, the truck had some very bad habits. It would swap ends at the drop of a hat in a corner, wheelie over backwards under power, front flip under braking, and on rough ground it was very hard to keep it in a straight line. In the air, it would drop the back end unless I corrected hard, and then it would try to front flip. I could correct for all these, but it was a very hyperactive truck, and took a lot of work to keep it under control, much less run fast.

If you watch some of Nitromite's vids where I'm running on the old TVPs, there is a sharp 180* turn at one end of his track, then a straight leading to his big jump. I was having to bootleg the corner, then almost stop, then struggle to keep the truck straight on the run-up for the ramp.

With the ext TVPs, I could make that corner under control, carry some speed out of it, and keep the truck lined up on the ramp almost without trying. Once it left the ramp, it would fly almost flat with minimal correction. I can brake and accelerate much harder now, and use nearly full power right off the line on 4S. It literally feels like a completely different truck, and it makes me look like a completely different driver, lol.

 

[Bankrupter]

its the same length as a FLM ext right ? Just wondering if larsons are the same length

 

[Ascender]

its the same length as a FLM ext right ? Just wondering if larsons are the same length

Yeah, they're the same length as the FLM, and use the same XL bone in the rear. I'd call these a budget alternative to FLM.

 

[frddyj]

can we get a closer look at how you mounted the ESC?

I'm mounting mine in same location.

interested to see how you did yours there.

 

[Ascender]

can we get a closer look at how you mounted the ESC?

I'm mounting mine in same location.

interested to see how you did yours there.

I'm waiting for my camera to recharge...I'll have them up later.

 

[NITROMITE]

I must add Asc has been getting better already, But when he showed up this weekend with his flux i was shocked with the lid and the truck, But i needed to see it on the track! Now i want his flux, this thing is bad a##

 

[NITROMITE]

BRYN!! will you please get your flux off Nitromites' and nitrogirl's SAVAGES'<object
ASC THEN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VSbNmZ2XDQ

ASC NOW ignore the first jump it would hav been perfect just came up alittle short

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fw193RPW4A

 

[Travis Mowery]

BRYN!! will you please get your flux off Nitromites' and nitrogirl's SAVAGES'<object
ASC THEN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VSbNmZ2XDQ

ASC NOW ignore the first jump it would hav been perfect just came up alittle short

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fw193RPW4A

I don't like how it nose dives off throttle?


I have looked at these plates on the tcs store. I was thinking about getting them but for racing i would stick with my tcs 5mm stock length chassis. These plates are good for bashing. They also look like they are not good for tight tracks?

 

[Ascender]

BRYN!! will you please get your flux off Nitromites' and nitrogirl's SAVAGES'

:buttshaker:

can we get a closer look at how you mounted the ESC?

I'm mounting mine in same location.

interested to see how you did yours there.

The TCS TVP actually comes with the screw locations pre-drilled for their ESC mounting plate, so all you have to do is screw the mount to two HPI engine plate crossmembers with the included screws, then use 4 M4x10mm screws to bolt them to the TVPs. I also found something ten times better than servo tape to secure the ESC from sliding around; 3M double-sided duct tape. It's the next best thing to welding.

 

[Ascender]

I don't like how it nose dives off throttle?


I have looked at these plates on the tcs store. I was thinking about getting them but for racing i would stick with my tcs 5mm stock length chassis. These plates are good for bashing. They also look like they are not good for tight tracks?

The nosedive is my fault. My throttle trim got screwed up earlier, and when I got off the throttle there, it was getting into braking.
I think they'll be fine for all but the tightest tracks. The truck still rotates easily under throttle, it's just much more controllable, so tight corners might actually be a bit easier. I haven't had it on a groomed all-dirt track yet, as the local club has given up on monster trucks.

 

[NITROMITE]

let me drive it ill show em ..lol kiding aside asc was screwing arround that day just getting the hang of it but for sure i see a whole new driver that weekend, I'm getting nervus

 

[frddyj]

The TCS TVP actually comes with the screw locations pre-drilled for their ESC mounting plate, so all you have to do is screw the mount to two HPI engine plate crossmembers with the included screws, then use 4 M4x10mm screws to bolt them to the TVPs. I also found something ten times better than servo tape to secure the ESC from sliding around; 3M double-sided duct tape. It's the next best thing to welding.

i like it, t.u. for posting :motorcycle: