well this is an odd method

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This was posted up on another fourm as a break in method. I will let it speak for itself.

This is the break in method I like to use..I have super sucess with it..Yes you can use the plug that came with the engine to break it in..Although I would suggest changing it out to a OS# 8, MC#8 or MC #59 before you start getting a good tune on it


Install the new engine into your chassis complete with clutch and ready to go as if you were going to race. Take a screwdriver, glow igniter, starter box, and a full bottle of fuel to a remote area where you won't annoy anyone with a running engine. Start your engine and allow it to warm up with several short ½ throttle “blips”. Once your engine has some temperature in it you can begin the break-in process. Start by opening the top end needle 1 full turn. Open the carburetor to full throttle and hold it there. Open the top end needle until the engine flames out. From here, close the top end needle ¼ turn and restart the engine again running it at full throttle. Run the engine full throttle for 3 tanks and shut the engine down.
Allow the engine to cool for 15-30 minutes. Once the engine has cooled down, run through the same process again for two additional tanks. On the third tank close the top end needle by ¼ of a turn. Instead of holding the engine at full throttle, start using the throttle by doing 2-3 second bursts of full throttle. Once you have done this for ½ of the tank close the top end needle another ¼ of a turn and continue throttling the engine. Continue closing the top end needle ¼ turn per every ½ tank of fuel. Do this until you have run a grand total of 8 tanks through your engine and then shut the engine down.
Allow the engine to cool for 15-30 minutes and then you are ready to hit the race track. Drive two tanks rich around the track slowly closing the top end needle sneaking up on that perfect mixture. At the end of the second tank your engine should be tuned to race speed. This will give you a total of 10 tanks of fuel through your engine before you really start to lean the mixture for ultimate power.
The reasoning behind this break-in procedure is that there is always a large volume of fuel flowing through the engine. Large volume of fuel means plenty of oil and lubrication for the break in process. This also helps flush out any burrs or small pieces of material that may have been left over from the manufacturing of the engine. Also, the engine has a load placed on it by trying to cycle all of the fuel through it – somewhat similar to the load that you will put on it out on the track when you try to power your car around the track. Last, the engine is broke in with rpm – if you break the engine in at idle then you will not be seating the piston, sleeve, and connecting rod at anywhere near the rpm that it will have to be ready for out on the race track.
This is the procedure that I have used with good success over the years of nitro racing. When I've hurried the break-in process I have had some engines last 30 minutes to 4 hours of racing. When I've taken my time and run through this process I've run engines as long as 16 hours of racing!! Yep, same piston and sleeve!!!! Be patient and have fun!!
Good Luck!!
 
There are so many reasons why that's not a good break-in imho that I will leave it at that.
 
Yea Well thats why I posted it. I told the guy how to heat cycle break in and linked him to your tunning guide here.
 
Here is what I posted up for him.

190 F is the temp you want to get it up to for starting the break in and run it up to about 220. That break in method has a few flaws in it. It would work if you are in a rush to break it in but a slower process works best break in on most of my motors is anywhere between 3/4 and a whole gallon.

A motor is not fully broken in and ready for a race tune till you can pull the plug and turn the motor over freely by hand with no pinch at the top of the sleeve. at that point you are ready for an all out race tune.

Here is what I recomend for break in.

Set carb opening to 1mm gap w/ full break applied. Set both hsn and lsn to flush (This is break in settings on 95% of motors) Use a high quality fuel such as byrons 20-30% nitro and 11% oil.

Start it and alow it to idle through 1 tank of fuel making sure engine temps do not go above 230 F. This alows for all the parts to get nicely lubercated and to knock down and burs that their may be in the motor.

For the second tank of fuel put the truck down on the ground and start it. Do slow figure eights or whatever verying the throtal between 0 and 1/4 throtal being sure temps go above 190 and running it up to about 210 than shutting it off put the piston at botom dead center and alow it to cool completely. Start it back up once it is cooled and repeat this process for the rest of the first 1/3 gallon of fuel. ( If you are not getting the temps up to at least 190 you are not mating the piston to the sleeve at all. Lean it out on the hsn 1 hour at a time till you can get the temps up)

For the second 1/3 of a gallon do the same as above but taking it up to 1/2 throtal. ( be sure to do this smoothly and don't blip the throtal)

For the last 1/3 of a gallon you are going to be doing wot passes keeping your temps under 240 but slowly leaning out the hsn for proformance.

Here is a great link for engine tunning written up by Robin of ERCM.

https://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=12260

By the time you are done you will have a well tuned fully broken in motor that will last you for many gallons.

One other thing is that on a fully broken in motor after it cools I set the piston to top dead center to seal off the exsust port of the motor to keep air out.

At the end of the season I will put a drop of after run oil down the glow plug hole and in the carb and turn the motor over a few times to lubercate it and seal it up in a ziplock bag till next season. After run oil is not needed if you are going to be running your motor again within two or three weeks.
 
sounds like more of a "breaking your engine procedure" then "breaking in of your engine procedure" lol
 
thats a methond that a pro racer uses it forgot his name but ive seen many vids of this it its bizzare but they all said it had postive results but i would still do the heat cycle method.
 
This was posted up on another fourm as a break in method. I will let it speak for itself.

This is the break in method I like to use..I have super sucess with it..Yes you can use the plug that came with the engine to break it in..Although I would suggest changing it out to a OS# 8, MC#8 or MC #59 before you start getting a good tune on it


Install the new engine into your chassis complete with clutch and ready to go as if you were going to race. Take a screwdriver, glow igniter, starter box, and a full bottle of fuel to a remote area where you won't annoy anyone with a running engine. Start your engine and allow it to warm up with several short ½ throttle “blipsâ€. Once your engine has some temperature in it you can begin the break-in process. Start by opening the top end needle 1 full turn. Open the carburetor to full throttle and hold it there. Open the top end needle until the engine flames out. From here, close the top end needle ¼ turn and restart the engine again running it at full throttle. Run the engine full throttle for 3 tanks and shut the engine down.
Allow the engine to cool for 15-30 minutes. Once the engine has cooled down, run through the same process again for two additional tanks. On the third tank close the top end needle by ¼ of a turn. Instead of holding the engine at full throttle, start using the throttle by doing 2-3 second bursts of full throttle. Once you have done this for ½ of the tank close the top end needle another ¼ of a turn and continue throttling the engine. Continue closing the top end needle ¼ turn per every ½ tank of fuel. Do this until you have run a grand total of 8 tanks through your engine and then shut the engine down.
Allow the engine to cool for 15-30 minutes and then you are ready to hit the race track. Drive two tanks rich around the track slowly closing the top end needle sneaking up on that perfect mixture. At the end of the second tank your engine should be tuned to race speed. This will give you a total of 10 tanks of fuel through your engine before you really start to lean the mixture for ultimate power.
The reasoning behind this break-in procedure is that there is always a large volume of fuel flowing through the engine. Large volume of fuel means plenty of oil and lubrication for the break in process. This also helps flush out any burrs or small pieces of material that may have been left over from the manufacturing of the engine. Also, the engine has a load placed on it by trying to cycle all of the fuel through it – somewhat similar to the load that you will put on it out on the track when you try to power your car around the track. Last, the engine is broke in with rpm – if you break the engine in at idle then you will not be seating the piston, sleeve, and connecting rod at anywhere near the rpm that it will have to be ready for out on the race track.
This is the procedure that I have used with good success over the years of nitro racing. When I've hurried the break-in process I have had some engines last 30 minutes to 4 hours of racing. When I've taken my time and run through this process I've run engines as long as 16 hours of racing!! Yep, same piston and sleeve!!!! Be patient and have fun!!
Good Luck!!

Very odd indeed.:Mr.confused:
 
thats a methond that a pro racer uses it forgot his name but ive seen many vids of this it its bizzare but they all said it had postive results but i would still do the heat cycle method.

Racers do it because it's a faster break in but they also get free engines. If it lasts five gallons they are happy, if not, toss in a new one and repeat.
 
There is one guy I know who is sponsored by trinity who breaks in his motor by pulling off the head and using a sanding wheel on a dremel to sand down the piston and sleeve till there is no pinch puts it together after cleaning it out with a little nitro clean and throws it on the track.

Now he doesn't do that all the time just when he blows a motor on race day and doesn't have time to break in a new one. He races twice a week everyweek and goes through on average 1 motor every two weeks.

I have seen his buggy come off the track at well over 300 degrees every single race. And I have seen him blow two motors in a single day.

Now I am not saying the guy doesn't know better but just that he doesn't care because trinity will send him as many motors as he needs.

Guys like that make me sick.
 

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