savage hill climber

[SAVAGEBASH]

i was thinking of a new project, and i came up with a savage that could climb hills realy well by some how lowering it and makeing it really light.

Any one got any ideas.

 

[4x4]

cool idea you would also need some super grippy tires!! and if you have a bit of money spare you could get some carbon fiber tvp and suspention arms. you could also get a carbon exhaust if you wanted but i don't know how much lighter it would be.

here are some links

http://www.jespares.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=27_192&category=Vantage Racing

http://www.vertigoperformance.com/products_savage.html

http://www.pro-lineracing.com/proline.html

hope that helps 4x4

 

[SAVAGEBASH]

Cheers mate i was also thinking of taking 2 shocks of each side of the truck so that it would lower it a bit. and that mite help the truck not flip backwards.

 

[4x4]

anytime! and yep i agree with taking 2 shocks off each side!! i think there is a trick to shorten your shocks. i will have a look for it and post it if i can find it.
4x4

 

[Jt]

You can shorten your shocks by using internal limiters (fuel line on the shaft inside the shock is a common method) or making external limiting straps.
Might want to give some thought to getting extended TVP's to help keep it planted on all fours as well.

 

[4x4]

thats the trick thanks jt!!
4x4

 

[SAVAGEBASH]

Cheers Guys

 

[[hs] darkshine]

diff lockers as well. that way it'll grip up hill if a wheel on an axle looses grip.
i'd go with proline mulchers 40 series or std maxx paddles (i use them and they are amazin!) maybe even go really low gearing.
as far as weight, i'd be inclined to try a mid tank and have the rx stuff in hte front as well (should help prevent tipping backwards)
i'd probably run really soft springs and 4 shocks. hope that helps. dan

 

[thrasher6]

Could also run 1 shock on each side in front and run them all (and fairly stiff) in the back, that way the front wants to stay lower than the back...

 

[SAVAGEBASH]

WHER could i buy diff lokers

 

[Jt]

LOL here ya go click me

 

[4x4]

mucked this up i deleted the wrong message.lol

http://www.vertigoperformance.com/products_Lockers.html
thanks jt thats the one!!
4x4

 

[[hs] darkshine]

Could also run 1 shock on each side in front and run them all (and fairly stiff) in the back, that way the front wants to stay lower than the back...

i was thinking a similar thing, and alltho the sav has a 50/50 front/rear split i dunno if it would climb as well...i reckon front and rear the same(ish) would work berrter.....?

 

[thrasher6]

In theory, I don't believe that mis-matching the suspension front to back should have any effect on the 50/50 split. The wheels should all turn at the same speed regardless of where your suspension is set.

To put it into perspective, think about suspension travel while driving, for example. Even being completely independent suspension travel for each wheel, just like almost all automobiles are doing now, the tires all continue to turn at the same speed.

As for lowering the front, I *think* that by lowering it, it should actually put more weight/down pressure on the front wheels, because it will be further from the flipping backward point, which should in turn help with traction and stability.

On the other hand, I could be wrong...lol, but with trying to keep the laws of physics in mind, I think that is basically how it should work. I haven't ever tested the theory, so I can't say from experience.

Of course, if anyone has any experience with it or if anyone has a difference of opinion, please feel free to share!!

 

[xtremsavage]

You could also try flipping and mounting the shocks upside down. To where the shock shaft mount side is mounted to the tower and the other to the suspension arm. I've seen it done on rock crawlers to help lower the CG and/or it helps to put more weight closer to the wheels.

 

[Chunky Monkey]

shorter shocks up front, stock in the rear...Lengthen the chasis, run a high torque motor.

 

[xtremsavage]

Also just thought of this. You could add stick-on weights to the tires up front. You'd put them on the rim before you mount your tires. Or add them to the inside of your wheels where tey mount to your truck. Just make sure you have enough clearance for the rims to rotate.

 

[[hs] darkshine]

as for wheel weights, crawlers use shot in the wheels (just remember to plug the drain holes in the rims!) but i dunno how well it would work.