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orcusomega

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OK, I am rarely the one do to PSA's (Public Service Announcements) but yesterday, this hit home and I wanted to pass it along to you all, just as a friendly warning.

As some of you know, I am a volunteer fireman. Yesterday here in the Philly area we had cold weather + tons of snow, and as you might imagine that drives most folks indoors to stay warm.

LESSON #1 - don't OVERLOAD RECEPTICLES!!!!
A family innocently added brand new, extra heaters in their home to fight off the cold. This is what they got:
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House was a total loss - just as the blizzard was starting to set in. Thank god no one got hurt, either the occupants or the firemen. BE CAREFUL! Don't overload your outlets, pay attention when breakers pop, and don't put stuff in front of/on top of heaters!

LESSON #2 - IF YOU STORE AMMO, DO IT SAFELY!!!
As you might imagine, the fire above got pretty hot. While we were fighting the fire, we kept hearing loud pops, but could not identify the source, until after the fire was under control. Turns out that the owner was also a avid gun collector. We pulled all these out:
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At least he was smart enough to store his ammo in army surplus ammo cans. The popping we heard was from rounds cooking off in the ammo cans. We were 10 ft from these when we started hearing them going off.
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The ammo in the can in the top pic, as we were told, was 9mm, and the can held everything in. The other cans had other various sized rounds in them, and they were NOT able to hold the contents in - bullets were literally flying right around us, but we didn't know it at the time. The icing on the cake is that all these guns and ammo were stored in the house right behind this:
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if they had flown just the wrong way, they could have punctured the tank, and dumped heating oil into a working house fire. Imagine what that would look like.

So please, use common sense and be careful. Don't overload your power with things that draw a lot of juice like compressors, heaters, etc! And please store your guns and ammo safely - even if you live alone, there is the chance that someone else may benefit from your practical application of safety!

Thanks for listening to my soap-box rant 🙂

Bob
 
Glad to hear no one got hurt! You guys have quite a story to tell now LOL. That's crazy, but at least you know what that popping sound means next time you hear it. Hope you don't have to hear it again though!
 
wow!! I'm so glad no one got hurt,its dangerous enough you going in to fight the fire but dodging bullets on top of it is insane... and there left with no home really sad.......my hats off to you for the job you do!!!
 
yep just wow and the home owner didnt bother to tell you firefighters that there was live amunition in the house. I'm glad none of you got hurt as there could have been serious injuries. i don't want to sound harsh but some peoples stupidity could have cost numerous lives. as i already said glad you are all ok and there was no injuries
 
yep just wow and the home owner didnt bother to tell you firefighters that there was live amunition in the house. I'm glad none of you got hurt as there could have been serious injuries. i don't want to sound harsh but some peoples stupidity could have cost numerous lives. as i already said glad you are all ok and there was no injuries

Well, in all fairness, when your entire house is burning down, that isn't something that comes to mind immediately. When the police asked him, he immediately mentioned it, and he was helpful in making sure we got it all out and that we also knew where it was so we could make sure we had it all cooled as best we could. He was very cooperative once it is something that he thought of. That said, however, the ammo was in cans, but the guns were not even in a safe or anything, just in some closet space... Since the space was burnt, obviously, I don't know if it was locked or what...

Bob
 
Wow Bob! I'm glad no one was injured! Great tips for everyone to follow.

Everyone needs reminders on the nasty beast electricity can be, most people forget because it is not visable. Breakers trip for a reason (heat from the amps drawn), not just because they want to.

Was it started at a bad plug from arcing out or they just kept resetting the breaker (possibly melting the wire, then causing an arc) ? If you've even been able to locate the source yet.

Thanks for you work Bob!
 
i cant believe no one got hit by all those flying bullets! but thank god no one did
i give much respect to people like you
 
Wow Bob! I'm glad no one was injured! Great tips for everyone to follow.

Everyone needs reminders on the nasty beast electricity can be, most people forget because it is not visable. Breakers trip for a reason (heat from the amps drawn), not just because they want to.

Was it started at a bad plug from arcing out or they just kept resetting the breaker (possibly melting the wire, then causing an arc) ? If you've even been able to locate the source yet.

Thanks for you work Bob!

I have not seen the fire marshal's report, but I was with them when they were working the scene. The conversation was around a metal-cased power strip (that had melted!!!!) at the center of the fire. Like I said, I have not seen the final report, but that is where they were taking pics, commenting, and following char patterns (or in this case, lack of).

The thing that drives it home for me is I can remember when the fuse popped when I was younger, just reset it. We never thought about WHY it popped. I don't know about in this case, but in others, I have seen people replace he screw-in fuses with pennies "so the fuse would stop tripping"!!!!.

Bob
 
I have not seen the fire marshal's report, but I was with them when they were working the scene. The conversation was around a metal-cased power strip (that had melted!!!!) at the center of the fire. Like I said, I have not seen the final report, but that is where they were taking pics, commenting, and following char patterns (or in this case, lack of).

yeah you can easily overload one of those strips. Especially those little 3-way ones that everyones uses. (they have just a hot and neutral wire to the plug - flat cord usually- with 2 on one side and 1 on the other) I'm not sure what they are rated at but it's not much. It's a good idea to pay attention to the amp rating of something like that.

The thing that drives it home for me is I can remember when the fuse popped when I was younger, just reset it. We never thought about WHY it popped. I don't know about in this case, but in others, I have seen people replace he screw-in fuses with pennies "so the fuse would stop tripping"!!!!.

oh boy, you defently do not want to do that, pennies are a major no no :nono: They are safety devices for our protection.

Just like GFCI's (ground fault) in garages, outside, bathrooms, kichens, etc. They detect any leakage to ground and pop by monitoring the hot and neutral currents (what comes in must go out). One of that latest Code items is AFCI breakers (Arc Fault) in homes, which is great because they detect any spiking in the sine wave and pop. Although all these things have costs related to them, they are for our safety and the protection of property.

Just be care guys.
 

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