In need of; Flywheel, clutch, and clutch bell set up that works

[scameron78]

I picked up a cheap one from Amazon, this one, but it doesn't fit. Did some searching on this site and couldn't find any recent threads. So, what is a good set up that fits?

 

[upbasher1]

Get this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HPI-Racing...774252?hash=item1cdc66456c:g:2tYAAOSwHr9duIUp
OR this one if you don't have the brass collar: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Racing...709748&hash=item442e9ae56a:g:MqsAAOSwmXpcAEAQ
This: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Racing...385179&hash=item3d84f2d05a:g:JWcAAOSw9nJcfJUH
These: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dynamite-Max-Life-Aluminum-Clutch-Shoe-Set-1-8-Buggies-Truggies-DYNP5180/362334099111?_trkparms=ispr=1&hash=item545ccb96a7:g:e1kAAOSwKzVdqhDw&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw+Vj6nta7CKEs3N0qX3q64f9rbPLLv1oJlGpFhjZsRHsXhzUjC6TU252MIq77Ojr+DebLZtzmRkWBrCvDrKqhanaA0pcDlia46jAOs9UouXyLkmj3r8f3yZvbd8P8matN3WTYVGpJ1z1H1Hw2yUdUBvumLuQRUNmaXrOo1IAHsCMujOn4pEiwAI6n5dDoXWMkn0fdtzaRPWrwUkAh3nBNyHA/FTrOFOBg5KK9RFeR8QZZQXkjCSYmQe6NY33747GR3fEYmSnLeflhQdmQS9+1LbNHZpFnyokt0hF0todYWkrusmQuO3KZtBPkhtFubmvrfD0r3BNrwDLzmCFwhH/NNYS54XjjzM/mEVmoaadTiHEuzZV3/MTW1K394SyH3N/wK8wZF9PSdhRf5Vxnh8aPI8+4f5AC0pt2Kd83RVcX+2tNHLJfr636u3RN8IrcwqMzj0MQO9sw1F7+4ggQKuPVfwpNuBHuL7S98fitbIA3JV7ch6lzbHptdUZm9nCDeulM1hTOc4e6Xdm//G8rSRvex6FpGDGULf+9iljlmUeXPbnyx8O636z58gMqb7HBFcrKv66f5p3MV2YgGskmV48sSOjJ/wD72vRvs06WpU3PFzIfulzvd6AHh9VGIIem1RgDr4D2ZcVTYwG2MlpyQE+0SV6hQQTLssAeS2kuL3ffCzCRGcLJRFQZ0eadVSTcZg+qdn70MUxLiBGWwmw5hKxouGzbvZv5R+CKHdtUbsZEb5rjiXYvGm6Vb+Qa/Smbdqwbkh3ccqf9yl37dor9U=&checksum=362334099111244a71aed40f4f5ea4cfed89dd14bdc1&enc=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&checksum=362334099111244a71aed40f4f5ea4cfed89dd14bdc1

And these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kyosho-1-1...852757&hash=item591aa7432a:g:aVwAAOSwVH9cJoXk

Best clutch setup hands down. You can omit the clutch nut if you already have a stock one, its the same thing.
The 1.1mm springs are thicker than the stock ones, so the engine will rev up higher before engaging the clutch, much better for wheelies 🙂

 

[BrandNewSavvy]

I like that you noted "will work". Clutch setups can be complex for newbies, and that is because it needs to be properly set up for it to work. Otherwise, they are a still commodity. I mix and match cheep to high end... all that.

I'm curious what the issue is you are having that is preventing your clutch from 'working'.

What is listed above is one option, but there are many, many more options to be considered than that. I've run everything from stock to M2C, Buku, Mugen, XRay, OFNA. Dynamite, VP Pro, Tamiya, Losi,Werks, Nova, REDS, the list goes on and on. Trust me. HPI rapes people with prices when it comes to this (as do a lot of manufacturers---it's like going to the dealer for an oil change).

To make matters worse, the Savage is one of the more difficult vehicles when it comes to clutch options. It mainly has to do with the distance between the engine mount and spur gear...it's shorter than the unwritten standard). This is why it's best to stick with the stock bell (notice how much short the wall depth is compared to other bells?)

The clutch bearings on the Savage are as apt to go out than any other vehicle I've owned. I change them ever 5 tanks.

The Dynamite ones are okay They are no more "long lasting" than any other aluminum shoe IMO. Aluminum requires much more maintenance and does not last anywhere near the number of gallons the stock do.

There are no "hands down" clutch systems I've noticed with the Savage If I had to pick one it would be M2C variable-wight/Med. Mugen works well, as does OFNA. Bang fro buck the VP Pro ones are "hands down" the best compared to anything I've run (and I've owned 10+ of those dynamite shoes (I run in multile vehicles,

I would recommend the following myself. Been using them for years. One of the best kept secrets in the 'Clutchin' Commnuity' (yes, that actually exists...ha ha).
https://dialedhobbies.com/rs-502h-vp-pro-heavy-shoes-details
This gives you a breadth of options (which is the first step in getting your clutch to work). It has to come correct. These do. You probably get a good 3 gallons off them.

Just don't deviate from the stock nut or bell and you are good. Once you do that, the potential number of possible issues become exponential..so let me know if you have and I can help you make it work.

 

[BrandNewSavvy]

By the way, I got a box of those Hot Racing nuts. I was getting them for like $1 per back in the day. It's a great idea (as the nut is often the prime offender among brands...but i wouldn't trust it for long, consistent runs (I like a nice groove to seat the spring so that the engagement is consistent) ...I'm definitely gonna try them out though. Metal looks pretty shady however,it's like the caveman clutch nut...but I love it,

 

[scameron78]

2 issues with that clutch setup I purchased; the nut and the flywheel. The nut doesn't let the bearing ride on the inner race and the flywheel is thick pushing everything too far forward. Going to hit a hobby shop, not local, and see what they have before I purchase online.

 

[savageman023]

Hi all.

Getting another SS 4.6 back on the road. Having difficulties locating a flywheel. Anyone got any pointers. It is the 34mm and the original part number was 86271.