Help on identified this 2 nitros

[elco]

New to the game
I got this two i believe there both hpi just don't know what there are due the the paint but i got them to start

 

[Caretaker109]

The big one is a savage 25(ss?)
http://www.hpiracing.com/en/kit/845



and the small one is an mt2.
http://www.hpiracing.com/en/kit/10402