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DOOB'S Review Pages
by: DOOBEEWHA
========================================================================= INSTALLING AND TESTING THE ======================================================================================
-----------------------------------------------------------------Part 1------ ========== INTEGY REAR ALLOY HUB CARRIER SET==========
------------------------------------------------------------------------------description:MFG:INT T6906SSILVER ALLOY Rear Hub carrier (2) for Savage-X
When I received the the Hub carriers in the mail the other day, I noticed that the looked great,...Like all of Integy's products.
Upon further inspection, they had me thinking that these parts might be able to stand up to the test of bash/race applications.
So... Testing and bashing is what I plan to do.
But first,..
Lets see what's in the bag and how easy they are to install.
Installation time will not include the time it takes to prep the truck. By this, I mean you need to clean the install area from dirt and grime thats likely on every truck that gets bashed.
This includes cleaning the bearings. Re-lube them prior the this install.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------THE PARTS AND THE TOOLS
OK.. Pic 1.
A list price of $26.99 U.S. These guys are sold in a plastic bag. There's some hardware thats included. I'll comment further on the hardware a bit later.
Pic 2.
A closer look.
Pic 3.
And even closer.
Pic 4.
Pic 5.
There's no question that Integy makes great looking parts. This alloy is of a stronger variety than your average alloy. 6160 comes to mind here, but there's no reference to Integy's specs. At least, none that I could find.
Pic 6.
This is the hardware that was include in my set. Later on, you will see that there could have been some other things included with this assortment.
Pic 7.
Here are the tools I used to get this install underway. An old tooth brush and some rags for the dirty stuff is wise to have around, Nitro cleaner is great for cleaning the axle cups and bearings.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------THE INSTALLATION (TEAR DOWN)
Pic 8.
Here we see my existing rear hub and carrier.
What were going to to do is remove the rear carrier and get the axle and bearings.
Pic 9.
First, remove the two screws, top and bottom, from the hub. Then, unbolt and nut from the upper A-arm. I found that the easiest approach for the rest of the assembly was to pull the carrier pin from the hub.
This allows the entire assembly to fall away from the lower A-arm.
You can then un-bolt the tie-rod much more easily. Like I said in the intro,.. Clean the the parts that you take off. Also clean the A-arm ends. Flush the bearings and clean the axle with nitro cleaner. re lube bearings.
Pic 10.
Another view.
A this point, you can remove the dog bone and tie-rod. This is one of the good things about this carrier set. The tie-rods are illuminated from the assembly.
Pic 11.
Not including the tie-rod parts, carrier and hub, here's what's taken off the truck...
You will be using the bearings, axle, dog bone, wheel hex w/pin, and upper A-arm bolt w/nut. Don't forget to clean the bearings and lube. The axle should be cleaned with nitro cleaner.
pic 12.
This is what I would suggest you do with the spare carrier and hub. Clean and assemble for safe keeping. Two screws, One carrier pin w/E-clip.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------THE ASSEMBLY
Pic 13.
Ok... here's a dry run on the first part of assembly. Just seeing how it's going to come together.
Pic 14.
My camera can't get in tight enough to show this, but there's a 2mm or so gap in the pins play with the alloy hub. This is not desired from my point of view.
Pic 15.
I feel that Integy should include washers for this issue. As shown, I needed to place washers on both ends of the hub's pin to reduce the gaps play. With both nuts fully tighten, the gap still remains un-closed.
I was lucky to have the washers I needed on hand. Note the tie-rod... This should be removed.
Pic 16.
Note the 1mm washer I had to come up with to eliminate the excessive play that was in the hub pin's assembly. I placed the washer towards the rear of the truck.
Pic 17.
Here's a better view. Note that the washer is placed in the far right side, in between the hub and the A-arm gap. There's also washers placed on both ends of the pin. Not a single washer was included in the set.
In addition to the washer issue, I found it a real problem with the bearing not seating in the race. It's way too tight to fit. I had to pound it in gently and I suspect that it may be an issue down the road.
Rather than compromise this review,....
I elected to go ahead and make it fit. Not the smartest move I've ever made. It does seem to spin ok... Maybe slightly snug... Bummer.
Pic 18.
And the other side.
Pic 19.
After getting the bearing to seat, I begin to install the hub assembly. Don't forget the dog bone.
Pic 20.
As you can see,... a lot less bulkier than the original setup.
Pic 21.
Side view.
Pic 22.
The other side view
Pic 23.
Top view.
Pic 24.
For the finishing touch, a little black grease to hold and lube the axle's hex pin.
Pic 25.
Wa La!!
Pic 26.
Here's the other hub on the opposite side looking fine... A finish shot. Note the hub's washer is placed towards the back of the truck.
Pic 27.
The right side assembly process is identical to the first example.
A few more comments about the hardware... There should have been a longer replacement bolt for the upper A-arm.
This, rather than the stock bolt.
I wished that Integy would have included this minor cost in hardware to prevent a major problem on the truck.
As it is now... The bolt is tighter than it should be due to it's shortness.
This is causing some stiffness in the suspension until I replace the bolt myself. An obvious issue, I have to fix.
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DOOB'S Review Pages
by: DOOBEEWHA
========================================================================= INSTALLING AND TESTING THE ======================================================================================
-----------------------------------------------------------------Part 1------ ========== INTEGY REAR ALLOY HUB CARRIER SET==========
------------------------------------------------------------------------------description:MFG:INT T6906SSILVER ALLOY Rear Hub carrier (2) for Savage-X
When I received the the Hub carriers in the mail the other day, I noticed that the looked great,...Like all of Integy's products.
Upon further inspection, they had me thinking that these parts might be able to stand up to the test of bash/race applications.
So... Testing and bashing is what I plan to do.
But first,..
Lets see what's in the bag and how easy they are to install.
Installation time will not include the time it takes to prep the truck. By this, I mean you need to clean the install area from dirt and grime thats likely on every truck that gets bashed.
This includes cleaning the bearings. Re-lube them prior the this install.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------THE PARTS AND THE TOOLS
OK.. Pic 1.
A list price of $26.99 U.S. These guys are sold in a plastic bag. There's some hardware thats included. I'll comment further on the hardware a bit later.
Pic 2.
A closer look.
Pic 3.
And even closer.
Pic 4.
Pic 5.
There's no question that Integy makes great looking parts. This alloy is of a stronger variety than your average alloy. 6160 comes to mind here, but there's no reference to Integy's specs. At least, none that I could find.
Pic 6.
This is the hardware that was include in my set. Later on, you will see that there could have been some other things included with this assortment.
Pic 7.
Here are the tools I used to get this install underway. An old tooth brush and some rags for the dirty stuff is wise to have around, Nitro cleaner is great for cleaning the axle cups and bearings.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------THE INSTALLATION (TEAR DOWN)
Pic 8.
Here we see my existing rear hub and carrier.
What were going to to do is remove the rear carrier and get the axle and bearings.
Pic 9.
First, remove the two screws, top and bottom, from the hub. Then, unbolt and nut from the upper A-arm. I found that the easiest approach for the rest of the assembly was to pull the carrier pin from the hub.
This allows the entire assembly to fall away from the lower A-arm.
You can then un-bolt the tie-rod much more easily. Like I said in the intro,.. Clean the the parts that you take off. Also clean the A-arm ends. Flush the bearings and clean the axle with nitro cleaner. re lube bearings.
Pic 10.
Another view.
A this point, you can remove the dog bone and tie-rod. This is one of the good things about this carrier set. The tie-rods are illuminated from the assembly.
Pic 11.
Not including the tie-rod parts, carrier and hub, here's what's taken off the truck...
You will be using the bearings, axle, dog bone, wheel hex w/pin, and upper A-arm bolt w/nut. Don't forget to clean the bearings and lube. The axle should be cleaned with nitro cleaner.
pic 12.
This is what I would suggest you do with the spare carrier and hub. Clean and assemble for safe keeping. Two screws, One carrier pin w/E-clip.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------THE ASSEMBLY
Pic 13.
Ok... here's a dry run on the first part of assembly. Just seeing how it's going to come together.
Pic 14.
My camera can't get in tight enough to show this, but there's a 2mm or so gap in the pins play with the alloy hub. This is not desired from my point of view.
Pic 15.
I feel that Integy should include washers for this issue. As shown, I needed to place washers on both ends of the hub's pin to reduce the gaps play. With both nuts fully tighten, the gap still remains un-closed.
I was lucky to have the washers I needed on hand. Note the tie-rod... This should be removed.
Pic 16.
Note the 1mm washer I had to come up with to eliminate the excessive play that was in the hub pin's assembly. I placed the washer towards the rear of the truck.
Pic 17.
Here's a better view. Note that the washer is placed in the far right side, in between the hub and the A-arm gap. There's also washers placed on both ends of the pin. Not a single washer was included in the set.
In addition to the washer issue, I found it a real problem with the bearing not seating in the race. It's way too tight to fit. I had to pound it in gently and I suspect that it may be an issue down the road.
Rather than compromise this review,....
I elected to go ahead and make it fit. Not the smartest move I've ever made. It does seem to spin ok... Maybe slightly snug... Bummer.
Pic 18.
And the other side.
Pic 19.
After getting the bearing to seat, I begin to install the hub assembly. Don't forget the dog bone.
Pic 20.
As you can see,... a lot less bulkier than the original setup.
Pic 21.
Side view.
Pic 22.
The other side view
Pic 23.
Top view.
Pic 24.
For the finishing touch, a little black grease to hold and lube the axle's hex pin.
Pic 25.
Wa La!!
Pic 26.
Here's the other hub on the opposite side looking fine... A finish shot. Note the hub's washer is placed towards the back of the truck.
Pic 27.
The right side assembly process is identical to the first example.
A few more comments about the hardware... There should have been a longer replacement bolt for the upper A-arm.
This, rather than the stock bolt.
I wished that Integy would have included this minor cost in hardware to prevent a major problem on the truck.
As it is now... The bolt is tighter than it should be due to it's shortness.
This is causing some stiffness in the suspension until I replace the bolt myself. An obvious issue, I have to fix.
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