better slipper

[blown68ssrs]

I am having problems with the slippers on my savage. Bottom out, 1/8 turn back.
They don't last a tank. It is happening to both of my savage.
Any better slippers in the market?
Thanks

 

[Jam Racing 1]

http://www.amain.com/rc-cars/hpi-heavy-duty-ceramic-slipper-clutch-pad-set-2-hpi107454/p239942
I understand the ceramic pads are better, have not tried them myself so is your decision.....
let us all know how they do, and as for adjusting the slipper I run it tight and they last well with an axial .32 pushing power to it......

 

[F-Type]

I read somewhere to sand the slipper plate with a 220-paper, just to take the shinyness away, and to run it all tight.
I have no personal experience doing this though, I just got myself an octane, only relaying what I read on another forum.

 

[blown68ssrs]

Ordered some ceramic pads. Will report back.
I tried the scuff up the pressure plate with sand paper with the std clutch. It still didn't work.

 

[F-Type]

which ceramic ones did you order?

 

[blown68ssrs]

I ordered the ones Jam recommended. HPI107454. Hopefully it works.

 

[gwalk03]

I'm running a Robinson Racing GEN3 Slipper Set. Works great but a little pricey.

 

[blown68ssrs]

I have consider Robinson as well. It will be my next option if the ceramic pads don't hold up.
DO you run hardened steel bell with your set up?
I had steel spur on mine when I bought the truck. It ended up chewing up the standard bell.

 

[gwalk03]

I have consider Robinson as well. It will be my next option if the ceramic pads don't hold up.
DO you run hardened steel bell with your set up?
I had steel spur on mine when I bought the truck. It ended up chewing up the standard bell.

Yes, Let me say that I didn't have issues with my slipper unit. I switched BC the Robinson has bearings and I like the bearings and I used a hardened bell that would eat up the slipper so I just changed. If you are eating gears the robinson could kill your trans.

 

[blown68ssrs]

My issue is the slipper clutch disc. The ceramic pads should be here in a week. Will report back.
Cheers

 

[Jam Racing 1]

I have consider Robinson as well. It will be my next option if the ceramic pads don't hold up.
DO you run hardened steel bell with your set up?
I had steel spur on mine when I bought the truck. It ended up chewing up the standard bell.

Seeing as the Robinson stuff is EXTRA Hard, yes you should always use a matching bell or it will eat the bell gear in a hurry.....

 

[blown68ssrs]

Got the ceramic pad. With the single disc set up, 1/8 turn from the bottom, spur will turn but truck won't move. Going to try the dual discs set up next.

 

[Jam Racing 1]

Got the ceramic pad. With the single disc set up, 1/8 turn from the bottom, spur will turn but truck won't move. Going to try the dual discs set up next.

Sounds to me as though you have a problem somewhere.... it should be fine with a new ceramic slipper pad on it.....
Missing washers or something is keeping it from tightening up correctly

 

[F-Type]

What does dual disc setup mean? What discs are doubled up?

 

[Jam Racing 1]

I think he is referring to the RR gen 3 slipper setup.
A couple pics of what you have may be very helpful here....

 

[blown68ssrs]

The same set up was used when it had the S25 engine in it. It was working perfect until I stuck a much more powerful engine in.
The stock Savage X dual disc set up is what I am referring to.

 

[Jam Racing 1]

The same set up was used when it had the S25 engine in it. It was working perfect until I stuck a much more powerful engine in.
The stock Savage X dual disc set up is what I am referring to.

The stock slipper for a Savage is a single disc slipper, uses 1 pad stuck to the gear and a couple plates for friction and a couple of washers and a nut and bushing and spring, put together in the right order and good parts it outta be about the same as before.....

 

[Jam Racing 1]

 

[blown68ssrs]

That's what I had. The Savage X use a different set up with disc on both sides of the spur gear.

 

[X]

That's what I had. The Savage X use a different set up with disc on both sides of the spur gear.

No it doesn't. I have a savage x ss, what jam showed was what is stock.

 

[Jam Racing 1]

Post up a pic or 2 of what you have I am interested to see your setup

 

[blown68ssrs]

These are the part numbers:
86800
86801
86802
87243
77094
87042
page 22 Savage X instructions. I just learnt that this morning.

 

[X]

You must have a savage x 4.1 rtr, looks like it did have a dual disc setup. I'd say it's telling though that that setup was never used again. It must have been a poor design.

 

[blown68ssrs]

These are the trucks that I have. Pretty sure one is a 25 and the parts I am going to try.

 

[blown68ssrs]

This is the manual that I found on line. Page 22 is the slipper set up.

 

[Jam Racing 1]

I would do yourself a favor and just get all the newer parts and go that way with it , too many parts to go wrong on the one you have.....

 

[blown68ssrs]

I did get all new parts with ceramic disc for the single disc set up. No go.

 

[Jam Racing 1]

Possibly the upper shaft in the trans has to be changed out too, I bet it is longer than the newer x is....

 

[blown68ssrs]

I have 3 speed on both trucks. With the wheels off the ground, hit throttle, wheels spin. With the truck on the ground, hit throttle, spur spins but no movement.

 

[Jam Racing 1]

Well to be honest, the pics ya posted are blurry and don't show me anything relating to your slipper trouble. a couple decent pics may help some....