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Fx
03-04-2007, 11:38 AM
You Just Bought Your Savage…Now What!?



You finally got the Savage you were eyeing for months now eh. Congratulations you have just done the hardest part, you have parted with a good chunk of change. There are things you should know before you even think about starting your truck. Your Savage is just like a real truck and things you know about full size trucks can be applicable on your Savage.

What You Need To Actually Run Your Truck- No BS

Kits that are marked RTR or Ready To Run are actually only assembled and rarely come with every thing you need.

What you need is-

AA Battery’s- You will need these for your transmitter and for your battery pack. (Unless Your RC comes with a rechargeable battery pack.

Glow Starter- A glow starter is simply like a car cigarette lighter. It heats up the glow plug in your engine just like a spark plug. There are 2 types of glow starters, rechargeable ones and ones that uses regular batteries. I always recommend getting a rechargeable one because it last longer and is cheaper in the long run. A glow starter that uses regular batteries is not going to give you as much life as a rechargeable one.

Pullstart/Rotostart- You will not need to worry about this as all Savages come with a rotostart if your engine needs one. The purpose of a rotostart or a pullstart is simple, it spins the engine’s crankshaft, and in turn starts the motor.

Battery Pack- If your truck uses a rotostart you will need to get a 7.2 Volt Rechargeable Battery Pack for it. I highly recommend getting a NiMH battery pack. If you get the standard NiCad you have to charge it and fully drain it before you can charge it again. With NiMH you charge it, use it a little, and pop it back on the charger. NiMH will cost a little more but are worth it.

Chargers- You need to charge these batteries with something, and that’s what a charger is for. I will not talk about chargers because there are a million makes and models out there and they all have different features. My best advice for a charger is this, go to your Local Hobby Shop and see what they have, talk to someone and see what the best one is for you.

Fuel- Ah yes the most important thing, yet the most undervalued. Similar to chargers, there are lots of brands of fuel. I almost always recommend getting a 20% nitro content fuel. It’s pretty much idiot proof, because it gives your plenty of lubrication.


Things You Don’t Need But Are Good To Have

Tempgun- It helps you see if your engine is in the right temp range.

Fuel Bottle- Pretty self explanatory it’s hard to fill a 160cc tank with a monster gallon sized jug.

Fail-Safe- You will wish you bought one when you are staring down at your truck after it took off into 6 lanes of traffic. If a signal interferes with your truck it will take off, simple as that. You connect the fail safe to your throttle servo and set it to where you want it to go (Full Brake). So when a signal interferes with your truck it just stops, which is what you want.


Your Almost There!

-You got everything you need but before you can run it here is a check list of things that need to be done.

-Fully Charge All Battery Packs

-Go Over Your Truck And Make Sure All The Screws Are Tight

-Check Your Radio Equipment Make Sure All The Wires Are Connected

-Make Sure Your Antenna Is Up


Testing 123

Alright before we go putting nitro in the tank let’s make sure our electronics work. Plug the battery pack in the radio box and install FRESH BATTERIES in your receiver. Turn on the transmitter first and then the truck. Pull the trigger back for throttle and push it forward for brake. Push the truck forward while braking to make sure it works. Next turn the wheel left and right for steering. It all works? Great let’s start it up!

Starting Your Engine

We are going to start the engine now but first you should elevate your truck so it is on a sturdy platform and its wheels are off the ground so they can spin freely. Fill your fuel bottle (I hope you got one) and then fill the tank. First we need to prime the engine, so with one finger cover the exhaust and spin the engine either with the rotostart or the pullstart. There are bubbles in the fuel line going to the engine, keep spinning the engine until there are no bubbles. Your engine is primed and ready to start! Snap the glow starter on and either spin the rotostart or pull the pullstart. If you are using a pullstart do quick short pulls. If you are using the roto start spin it for five seconds and wait for another five then spin for five more seconds until it starts.

How To Shut Off The Engine

Take your finger and plug the exhaust, simple as that.


Up And Running

It is running up on blocks now and your wondering “What do I do now”. Time to break it in. Grab your truck by the roll bar and set it on the ground, it may roll a little. If it wants to run away check the end of this tutorial to see how to fix this. How to properly break-in and engine is debated but I am explaining how to break in your engine the “Idiot Proof Way”. This break-in method has you go through 8 tanks of fuel.

Tanks 1-2 – Let your truck idle for these two tanks, meaning no throttle just let is sit and burn through 2 tanks.

Tanks 3-4 – Drive around in figure eights and loops at ¼ throttle for 2 more tanks.

Tanks 5-6 - Drive around in figure eights and loops at ½ throttle for 2 more tanks.

Tanks 7-8 - Full throttle baby! Gun it, vary the rpms back and forth. Your engine is now ready to run at full speed.


Note: This break-in method is for the stock HPI engines that come with your savage. If you are running an after market engine then ask around on the forum for the best break-in info.

Tuning

I am only going to briefly touch upon tuning because I could make an entirely different tutorial on it. Most likely you have 3 needles on your engine, a High Speed Needle, a Low Speed Needle, and an Idle Needle. Refer to your manual as to where each needle is.

High Speed Needle regulates how much fuel gets to the engine at high speeds.

Low Speed Needle regulates how much fuel gets to the engine at low speeds.

Idle Needle regulates how much fuel gets to the engine when there is no throttle a.k.a. neutral.

When you break it down like that it isn’t so overwhelming. You tune your truck by turning the needles. Turning a needle clockwise is known as Leaning It Out (Less Fuel). Turning a needle counter-clockwise is known as Richening It or Fattening It (More Fuel). Here are the basics.

If your truck shuts off when you apply the brakes- Lean the idle needle out 1/8 of a turn. If it still stalls do another 1/8 turn and so on.

If your trucks rolls on the ground without you touching the throttle- Richen the idle 1/8 of a turn until it stays put on the ground.

My truck won’t hit second gear- Lean the high speed needle out 1/8 of a turn and so on.

You should only have to touch the idle now and again but not much. I don’t recommend touching the low end until you are very familiar with tuning. The high speed needle will be the needle that you will spend the most time with. If you lean the high speed needle out you will notice a performance gain. DO NOT LEAN THE HIGH SPEED NEEDLE OUT TOO MUCH! How much is too much? 6 full turns is too much. When you accelerate you should see a thick stream of smoke coming from the exhaust, if you are not seeing smoke it is too lean. Immediately richen the engine. While your truck is at an idle you should beable to feel a "mist" of exhaust. When tuning it is important to take it slow and go in 1/8 increments. Tuning should be easier if you just remember what each needle does. The best way to get better at tuning is to practice over and over. The hardest part for me was learning to tune an engine, it just takes practice.








I hope this tutorial helped. You can’t really cover everything in one tutorial and the best way to learn is going out there and practicing, not just with tuning but with everything RC. It is a great hobby if you are patient and stick with it. Good luck, and always remember to have fun, it’s a hobby after all.


Credits-

-Hop for having an awesome site
-All the moderators at HPISF for being awesome
-All the HPISF members for contributing to the site
-Microsoft Word For Inventing Spell Check!

Jeremy
03-04-2007, 11:40 AM
Looks good !!!!!!! Nice info !!!!!!

polystyrene
03-04-2007, 11:48 AM
you should add to tuning the high speed needle, that if you stop seeing alot of blue smoke throught the whole throttle range or none at all then you should stop and richen the hsn. if you see no blue smoke at all you are running way too lean and will damage you engine

Fx
03-04-2007, 11:53 AM
you should add to tuning the high speed needle, that if you stop seeing alot of blue smoke throught the whole throttle range or none at all then you should stop and richen the hsn. if you see no blue smoke at all you are running way too lean and will damage you engine

I did add that poly good idea.

[hs] darkshine
03-04-2007, 12:01 PM
nice one fx.

]-[0pa]0ng
03-04-2007, 12:45 PM
Poly - Here is what FX wrote is repsects to what you just said:

Tuning

I am only going to briefly touch upon tuning because I could make an entirely different tutorial on it. Most likely you have 3 needles on your engine, a High Speed Needle, a Low Speed Needle, and an Idle Needle. Refer to your manual as to where each needle is.

High Speed Needle regulates how much fuel gets to the engine at high speeds.

Low Speed Needle regulates how much fuel gets to the engine at low speeds.

Idle Needle regulates how much fuel gets to the engine when there is no throttle a.k.a. neutral.

When you break it down like that it isn’t so overwhelming. You tune your truck by turning the needles. Turning a needle clockwise is known as Leaning It Out (Less Fuel). Turning a needle counter-clockwise is known as Richening It or Fattening It (More Fuel). Here are the basics.

If you truck shuts off when you apply the brakes- Lean the idle needle out 1/8 of a turn. If it still stalls do another 1/8 turn and so on.

If you trucks rolls on the ground without you touching the throttle- Richen the idle 1/8 of a turn until it stays put on the ground.

My truck won’t hit second gear- Lean the high speed needle out 1/8 of a turn and so on.

You should only have to touch the idle now and again but not much. I don’t recommend touching the low end until you are very familiar with tuning. The high speed needle will be the needle that you will spend the most time with. If you lean the high speed needle out you will notice a performance gain. DO NOT LEAN THE HIGH SPEED NEEDLE OUT TOO MUCH! How much is too much? 6 full turns is too much. When you accelerate you should see blue smoke come from the exhaust, if you are not seeing smoke it is too lean. Immediately richen the engine. While your truck is at an idle you should beable to feel a "mist" of exhaust. When tuning it is important to take it slow and go in 1/8 increments. Tuning should be easier if you just remember what each needle does. The best way to get better at tuning is to practice over and over. The hardest part for me was learning to tune an engine, it just takes practice.




Question is did everyone read it or just skim thru it?

FX you stood to the plate and swung. Awesome work we Appreciate all that it takes to write this up. I will now stick it.

Hop

Mondragon
03-04-2007, 12:50 PM
Very Nice write up FX. that should help people that are just gitting into the hobby...

polystyrene
03-04-2007, 01:13 PM
-[0pa]0ng;16945']Poly - Here is what FX wrote is repsects to what you just said:




Question is did everyone read it or just skim thru it?

FX you stood to the plate and swung. Awesome work we Appreciate all that it takes to write this up. I will now stick it.

Hop

wasnt in there when i read it before, notice that it is now though.

Fx
03-04-2007, 01:42 PM
Thanks for all the nice comments fellas. Thanks for making it a sticky hop.

DOOBEEWHA
08-23-2007, 11:57 PM
Hey FX... Looks great Paul.
If you believe in placing the pistion at BTC at the cool down, You can edit that in.

Good job!

4x4
08-24-2007, 03:42 AM
great job fx!
4x4

rex_hvn
08-24-2007, 04:03 AM
thanx guys this and doobie newbie links have been a life saver to me starting and using my savage ive hjad my slip ups and this site has always helped me get back on all 4's (4 wheels)

thanx Heaps Rex_hvn

Shaun
08-24-2007, 09:20 AM
Boy I Sure Wished I Had Of Known About This Forum When I First Got My X Would Have Saved Alot Of Stress! Lol But Good Work On All The Advice For Newcomers To This Hobby I Know For A Fact It Would Have Helped Me In The Begining And I Still Find Advice That Helps Me So Two Thumbs Up Guys! But I Had Fun "tinkering" And Figuring Things Out On My Own So I Cant Complain!:10:

TommySavage
02-28-2008, 11:27 AM
About shutting off the engine, pinch the fuel line. Plugging the exhaust works, but stalls the engine by flooding it.

bwl2828
05-05-2008, 08:44 AM
i have been in rc for about 2 years but this still helped thanks man :resp: