FLUX HP or FLUX 2350?

[Keithv]

Which truck has the better esc/motor set up? Im not concerned with the radio system as I would use my Spektrum radio.
Thanks

[88gtanotchback]

the FLUX HP is the big dog with high end ESC capable of 6s runs.

[frddyj]

the FLUX HP is the big dog with high end ESC capable of 6s runs.

+1, idk anyone with the 2350 nor heard any reviews of the motor/esc it uses, but like 88 points out, make sure you consider that HPI recommends 4s (14.8) as the max voltage while your making your decision.

[Tungsten]

I just bought the 2350. It's at my house now but I don't have a charger or packs for it as of yet. I went with it because 2s will be slightly faster on the 2350 than the HP. I only plan on using 2s Lipos anyways. Tower currently has $60.00 off your order and HPI has a $50.00 rebate. So I bought the truck for $449.00 before the rebate. Only $399.00 after the HPI rebate. Hard to beat a deal like that.

[frddyj]

Tower currently has $60.00 off your order and HPI has a $50.00 rebate. So I bought the truck for $449.00 before the rebate. Only $399.00 after the HPI rebate. Hard to beat a deal like that.

Nice skore on the flux. when you get it up & runnin' id love to read some threads on it as there isnt much info available on these yet.

[Keithv]

So even though it says it can handle 6s they only recommend 4s? Hmm...
And I was thinking like tungsten, all my packs are 2s so Id have to buy new packs to run 3s anyway.
What code did you use for the $60 off at tower? I can find it

[Tungsten]

So even though it says it can handle 6s they only recommend 4s? Hmm...
And I was thinking like tungsten, all my packs are 2s so Id have to buy new packs to run 3s anyway.
What code did you use for the $60 off at tower? I can find it

The 2350 is not made to handle 6s. Can only go to 4s or you will ruin it. The Flux HP can handle 6s w/o any problems. The code I used was sent to me as being a member of the super saver club. It's only $9.99 to join and you get that back with free shipping.
$100.00 - $124.99 $15.00 010H1
$125.00 - $149.99 $20.00 010H2
$150.00 - $199.99 $25.00 010H3
$200.00 - $224.99 $35.00 010H4
$225.00 - $249.99 $40.00 010H5
$250.00 - $299.99 $50.00 010H6
$300.00 or more $60.00 010H7

Doubt those codes will work for you unless you join the club, but it's worth a shot. Good luck!

[Keithv]

Ok misread it. I thought he meant the HP was rated for 6S but they only recommended 4S. Somehow I think 4S would be fast enough, no?

[Tungsten]

Ok misread it. I thought he meant the HP was rated for 6S but they only recommended 4S. Somehow I think 4S would be fast enough, no?

It's your choice, 6s is a lot harder to control and use. 4S is still plenty fast and will be faster than most Nitro trucks. Go on to youtube and type in Savage 2350 and watch the videos and see if it seems fast enough for you.

[Keithv]

Thats what I was thinking. Im going to see if I can talk to the wife into the 2350. Wish me luck

[frddyj]

Thats what I was thinking. Im going to see if I can talk to the wife into the 2350. Wish me luck

g.l. bro :Xfingers:

[MikeK1981]

Haha good luck with that! Hope yours is nicer than the one I used to have LOL!

[Keithv]

LOL..:hardlaugh:

[frddyj]

Haha good luck with that! Hope yours is nicer than the one I used to have LOL!

wife or flux?

[Keithv]

Aside from the higher kv of the 2350 is one motor better quality then the other? Or the ESC?

[frddyj]

Aside from the higher kv of the 2350 is one motor better quality then the other? Or the ESC?

again its hard to say and your not exactly comparin apples to apples here.

Anyone know who makes the 2350kV motor and esc?

[Keithv]

The Tork is a Castle motor right?

[Tungsten]

From what I have seen it is still made by Castle.

[Keithv]

The alphastar too?

[frddyj]

The Tork is a Castle motor right?

yes and its solid.

[Keithv]

How about the Alphastar and the Qbase?

[sharkattack99]

i don't feel that 6s is as extreme as everybody says it is at least IMO, i use 6s in my flux and it is super fast don't get me wrong but not hard to handle. thats just me anyway still super dupper fast though

[Tungsten]

The alphastar too?

I believe it is. Seems like a good little ESC and it's still Programmable!

"Fully programmable with our #100573 USB Programming Kit and fitted with fat 6mm bullet connectors, the Q-base delivers power to the Alphastar 2350 motor in massive gulps of voltage while the integrated cooling fan keeps everything at a reasonable operating temperature. The Flux Q-base ESC is reversible so you can back out of jams with ease."

[Keithv]

Got the green light from the wife. But still trying to decide. Is the HP worth the extra money or is the 2350 just as good?

[Tungsten]

That's up to you. I believe both trucks will be great. If you have the extra cash go for the HP.
This video should put your mind at ease about it overheating and whatnot. Looks pretty hot there and he is bashing it pretty hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gbbuYnyflI

[Keithv]

Does the hp have any issues with overheating? Or was it a gearing issue?
Would there be any problem using 20C packs with these trucks?

[frddyj]

Does the hp have any issues with overheating? Or was it a gearing issue?
Would there be any problem using 20C packs with these trucks?

Huge problems i say.

the Flux/Blur wants 100A continuous so you don't underpower/overheat the unit.

20c x 5000Mah on a pack is exactly 100 provided you are truly getting a solid 20c (which you probably arent).

my Hyperions claim 35C-continuous & MaxAmps claim 60c Continuous and ive not had a problem.

Gearing will also affect it because if you gear it too high, (in combination with the weight of the truck) you over work the motor (probably in combination with starving it for power) which will result in overheat.

[Keithv]

So 4000mah 20c backs wouldn't work with these trucks?

[frddyj]

not on the flux blur system. thats only 80Amp.

[Keithv]

Hmmm that poses a slight problem then. Will they work with the 2350?
And thanks for all the help Freddy

[Tungsten]

Hmmm that poses a slight problem then. Will they work with the 2350?
And thanks for all the help Freddy

The 2350 wants a min of 25c. I was just reading a new mag that had the 2350 in it. They claimed it hit 45mph on 4S with a radar gun.

[frddyj]

The 2350 wants a min of 25c. I was just reading a new mag that had the 2350 in it. They claimed it hit 45mph on 4S with a radar gun.

This info comes from the Flux 2350 Manual page #6 http://www.hpiracing.com/manuals/pdf/104493.pdf

".... For 2s Lipo packs we recommend a rating of 25c or better.For 25c rated packs we recommend a minimum of 4000 Mah. For 35c+ we recommend a minimum of 3500Mah"


so theyre saying 25c x 4000Mah = 100A minimum or better.

[Keithv]

Hmmm ok. Gotta do more research then. I have a bunch of 20c 4000 packs. Guess I'll need something different

[Keithv]

So who sells the most affordable LIPOs now? The ones I have I got from Hobbywinner and they work great. But I cant find them online anymore.

[Tungsten]

So who sells the most affordable LIPOs now? The ones I have I got from Hobbywinner and they work great. But I cant find them online anymore.

http://www.hobbypartz.com/ If you want to buy in the USA and have faster shipping.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11614# They are in Hong Kong but people seem to have good luck with them.

[Keithv]

Thanks Tungsten. (http://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums/member.php?u=8571)
Ive been looking at those. Im trying to get the highest capacity I can without breaking the bank. I got such a great deal on the hobbywinner packs Im kicking my self for not getting the higher C rate back then

[Keithv]

Sorry for all the questions..
Is there a noticeable difference between 30C and 40C? I see maxamps is showing 60C on their packs. Is it really necessary to go that high?

[Keithv]

What do you think about these?
http://www.hobbypartz.com/83p-4000mah-2s1p-74-30c-car.html

[Tungsten]

That's what I was going to buy along with this charger..
http://www.hobbypartz.com/thac6smbachw.html

Then put a order in for a few of these later on...
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11614#

[Keithv]

I have that charger. It works great.
You think those 30C 4000 would work well?
Im looking at those 5000's too. Wish they were available here so the shipping wouldnt be so bad.

[frddyj]

keith i seen your shout about the castle link. i am using this one on my flux/blur
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?I=LXGVR8&P=M



works great

ps. i got mine on TCS Crawlers because Tower charges you (if i remember right) an $8 minimum shipping charge which is robbery i.m.o.

[Tungsten]

I have that charger. It works great.
You think those 30C 4000 would work well?
Im looking at those 5000's too. Wish they were available here so the shipping wouldnt be so bad.

I think the 4000 would be fine. I am just going to put a bigger order in from Hobbyking when I have the money, that way I'll make the most of my shipping charges. Where in NY do you live?

[Tungsten]

keith i seen your shout about the castle link. i am using this one on my flux/blur
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?I=LXGVR8&P=M



works great

ps. i got mine on TCS Crawlers because Tower charges you (if i remember right) an $8 minimum shipping charge which is robbery i.m.o.

That part is $4.99 to ship from Tower Hobbies. It is parts express eligible.

[Keithv]

Thanks frddyj, I was hoping that one would work.

[Savagedude123]

I have the 2350 and its way faster then my dads 4.6 and its bone :leftright:stock on 2s 3s just sounds like to fast 4 me 2 handle LOL and all my packs are 2s also so it makes sense to me to get the 2350. Also it sounds like u have the same situation as me.

I would be afraid of this happning 2 me :nutshot: LOL!!!!!!

[ryugaiden05]

I am glad I found this post. I am going to be picking up a 2350 in the next couple of months. I am going with that one so I can use all the same 2s packs for it and my Blitz. Plus it has all the power I need. I am going to be using these packs from hobbypartz http://www.hobbypartz.com/77p-sl5000-2s1p-30c-2222-hardcase.html and a Flysky 2.4 radio from them too. http://www.hobbypartz.com/79p-gt3b-carradio-lcd.html
Are there any other things I need to get started once I get the truck?

[new2lectric]

I am also glad I found this thread! I've been thinking about getting a Savage. I've been running a Nitro revo for several years. Engine is shot, my radio is also shot, Thought instead of fixing it all, I might goto electric. I won't have to deal with getting fuel in my rural area* its a pain* I was wondering about Flux HP or the 2350. As I am totally new to electric, I might do the 2350, it's cheaper and still looks fast and tough as hell. Wheelies pretty much on command. I have no chargers or batts for such a vehicle but, gota start somewhere. Thanks for the great forums! I'm sold on the 2350