Reverse Module For Savage X

[R6 DADDY]

Hi i am getitng a savage x off the wife for christmas i am thinking of fitting a reverse module as one of my first mod's but the transmitter is only 2 channel what does everyone think is the best route to use either a new tranny and reciever (3 channel ) or a module and mixer to use with existing tranny any ideas appreciated
or does anyone think its not worth the time and expense
thanks again
chris:confiused:

[Randall]

if you are good enuf driver you will not need it ;)

[R6 DADDY]

yeah
but i only ever had electric type race cars what do these stop like???

[sirow1230]

cheaper way would be the mixer

[R6 DADDY]

yeah but are there any draw backs to the mixer or are they pretty good

[Jt]

The only complaint I have heard about the HPI reverse mixer so far, is the servo bounced back and forth from foward to reverse, but HPI took care of that and determined it was a bad mixer. That and having to hold it in the brake position for so long before it will shift. I dont care to run the reverse in my trucks, I had it in a few and it was more issues that I wanted to deal with. The mixer route would most likely be cheaper than a new radio setup, but in upgrading to a nicer radio will give you more adjustability options. Either way you decide get the Savage X mixer and reverse, or just the reverse module and a 3 channel RX/TX, you should have fun with the truck. :)

[R6 DADDY]

HI
thanks for the info i sure hope to have fun with it when i eventually run it in it should be party time after that
:DJjam:

[Jeremy]

Yea reverse would be nice but thats just athother reason for something to go wrong I dont know why the new savages don't have more channles like my older one thats stupid anyone know why????? besides to make more money ..... any way chris the first hop up I would buy would be the 3 speed then mabey a pipe I really dont know about the x because I dont have one so yea I want the savage xss

[R6 DADDY]

i was thinkin of a 3 speed transmission and exhaust
what about alloy a arms e.t.c i have been told the x's have stonger arms and and suspension parts
what is your thinking i have a savage 4.1 RTR x
thanks
chris

[k0m0d067]

first thing I would do to any new Savage, is buy a rechargable hump pack...

[R6 DADDY]

thanks i was just lookin at them but its a nightmare with mah and who knows what else which would you recommend and will it fit straight into my model i dont want to start cutting bits up or ewt like that
thanks
chris

[Jeremy]

If I was u I would hold off on the aloy a arms I still have the stock ones and I have only broke one of hem so far in a year (I DO DRIVE THE TRUCK HARD) don't get me wrong... But get the feel of your truck first it will be different then the electric.....

[R6 DADDY]

hi thanks for the advice i think i will they look like they can take a bit of a bashing not like my electric car it snapped the suspension arms at the sight of a jump lol:chainkiller:

[Jt]

I agree with k0m0d067 get a 1100-1600 mah battery, battery charger if you need one and a on/off switch with a charge lead (nothing to hack all drops in). As for the other upgrades, 3-speed, and pipe good first upgrades to do. I would stay away from alloy arms aswell, I have spent some money on them only for them to cost way to much to fix the truck after 1 bad landing. Alloy bends and doesnt flex like the stock plastic/nylon does and ends up costing more when they bend and break other parts of the truck (eg. hinge pins, bulkheads)

[R6 DADDY]

thanks sounds like good advice to me thats wat i will be getting first i think
:DJjam:

[jason77373]

i just bought a savage x, it is my first model and I am loving it. I would have to agree with runoverbysavage, the 3 speed is a great idea. I installed the 3 speed one tank of fuel after break in. The hump pack is another good investment if you dont want to have to tear everything apart every few tanks to get to the reciever batteries. I did that the first time and after having to remove the rollcage I bought the hump pack so i could just plug it in. dont forget the pack indicators so you know when a charge is needed.

[k0m0d067]

Alloy bends and doesnt flex like the stock plastic/nylon does and ends up costing more when they bend and break other parts of the truck (eg. hinge pins, bulkheads)


ummmm...I broke my bulk running the plastic arms...LOL:eyecrazy:

[Jt]

ummmm...I broke my bulk running the plastic arms...LOL:eyecrazy:

I have too, but it happened quicker and with more damage when I used the alloy. The one that changed my mind when I had with alloy arms installed, included all this damage...ended up bending 3 hinge pins , broke the bulkhead, ripped the screw out of the diff housing and broke the diff housing, snapped both lower braces, and of coarse the lower arm bent while the upper broke.:bang: all in the matter of 15 minutes.
My lesson was learned, and no I wasnt even bashing hard unless a 3-4 foot air is hard.?. So now if I run the alloy arms it is for street only and the truck lowered so it doesnt flip.

[R6 DADDY]

yeah i think i will stick to the stock plastic for now especially as i need to get the hang of the thing anyhow even if alloy was better plastic is certainley cheaper so i might buy a couple to have as spares cant be a bad idea dont spose
:10:
thanks for your advice i am sure it will save me time and money i only really wanted alloy because they look cool

[Drchiro]

You should use the module with the mixer, I have a both savage SS and savage X SS, the X SS has the module w/ the 3 channel radio, and I already blew the gear in the module because I shifted it from forward to reverse to quickly. thats the only problem w/ that setup, But my SS has a two channel radio w/ the mixer and you have to stop it before you shift from forward to reverse.

[JohnH]

gave my reverse module to hpi25. more rotating mass and more things to go wrong. so in the long run it will slow you down.

[[hs] darkshine]

i have installed the mixer and servo in my ss46, and am awaiting mew cemtre cvd's and disk hum so i can actually install the module into the beasty. i have it for convenience, the same as a rotostart, i am a lazy bastard, saved me walking to my truck when i hit something, i can reverse away. def go for a decent hump pack, 3 speed and take your time to upgrade. :motorcycle:

[JohnH]

nice bf2 avatar darkshine.

[R6 DADDY]

thanks for that anyone had any trouble with trannys or recievers i got my savage x today but all the controls work backwards i.e. left is right forward is reverse. The reverse switches on the transmitter have no effect
gutted help:bang:
:nutshot:

[Jt]

got my sav y x todayanyone had any trouble with trannys or recievers i got my savage x today but all the controls work backwards i.e. left is right forward is reverse. The reverse switches on the transmitter have no effect
gutted help
Tried to help in your other post please look there. ;)

[[hs] darkshine]

thanx for the compliment, between playing bf2 bf2142 and fear and extraction point, with working as well, it's a wonder i have time for r/cing!!

[R6 DADDY]

hi darkshine you got bf2 m/c on xbox 360 or not if so do you play online we can have a game sometime if so
:uzi: :uzi:

[[hs] darkshine]

i dont have a 360. was going to buy one, but goth the sav instead!! i am trying to save for a bike & das, but at this rate, it's going to be a loan!!

[R6 DADDY]

oh i see i got a 360 last year when they came out i plat bf3 modern combat ghosr recon a/w rainbow six vegas and gears of war to name a few its awsome online xbox live:shtgn:

[[hs] darkshine]

i'm stickin to my pc untill 360's go a bit cheaper!!! supercharger for the sav is tempting tho...:motorcycle:

[R6 DADDY]

didnt know there was such a thing how are they driven forced induction on a 2 stroke i aint never seen any pics or links i would like to see that
:chainkiller:

[[hs] darkshine]

megabyteme posted this under 'nitro' in engine speed tuned pipes: rb innovations (http://www.rbinnovations.com/) dunno how much it would be to ship to the uk tho...:eyecrazy:

[R6 DADDY]

i will see if i can have a look should be interesting

[[hs] darkshine]

there is one on ebay...from the uk!!! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160068577647&rd=1&rd=1

[R6 DADDY]

hey that looks pretty trick not as much money as i thought thay would be either
:chainkiller:

[[hs] darkshine]

yeah, i just found it yesterday. megabyteme has one, a video is here: http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i85/megair/rc/?action=view&current=savage2.flv

[R6 DADDY]

thats crazt its a shame the camera is on car all the time though hard to judge exactly how quick it is although it looked awsome only heard 2 gears though imagine with a 3 speed
:chainkiller:

[Jt]

Still a pretty cool vid of megabyteme's truck though.

[R6 DADDY]

defo a cool vid and a cool truck sounds manic like it was really movin !!!

[polystyrene]

not the supercharger again!!!

[R6 DADDY]

yup supercharger cool

[polystyrene]

you know they dont actually do anything?

[R6 DADDY]

what you mean they dont do ewt how can that be ?????

[[hs] darkshine]

sorry!!!!!!!!!! :motorcycle:

[[hs] darkshine]

i find it difficalt to believe they do nothing, as the company selling them claims they offer a performance increase. and surely even at low psi boost, it's got to be better than 14.7 psi atmospheric pressure...?

[R6 DADDY]

thats what i would have thought if you can compress the air being taken into the engine there must be a increase in performance for sure!!!!
:nutshot:

[[hs] darkshine]

def on full scale cars, yes you have to richen the mixture, but the renault 5 turbo was/is (?) a carb'd engine, running forced induction. 1/4 to 1/8 richer on the hsn would be fine, i imagine. might have to purchase one and find out...once the credit card's payed off after xmas!!!!
:DJjam:

[Jt]

what you mean they dont do ewt how can that be ?????

The concept works well on 1:1 cars because of the valves in the engine, these little nitro engines have no valves. Little boost would actually be seen on these valveless engines, the timing between the intake and exhaust port are to close. So most of the added boost actually gets blown though the engine. Here is the quote from megabyteme

had the SC on a surefire.32 works OK the performance gain isn't that dramatic. there is some but not enough to warrant the cost. 1/8 off the HS and that was it. starts were quick and came to temp quick. took care of half tank lean that my x had.

[polystyrene]

yeah thats what i meant. performance increase is going to be very slight. and for the money a better enigne would be a better purchase

[[hs] darkshine]

wankel engines love forced induction... the thing i forgot, when i was studying, i never looked @ strokers. 4 stroke with valves or rotors or whatever like the added air/fuel for combustion-in a spark ignition engine. on a stroker, with a glow plug, it would work different. now i have actually thought about it, it would give more power, but not a great deal. in response to nitro's having no valves, obviously not, but does the intake port not open and close, so still having a 'pulse' i really never studied these engines when i was at uni/college, was always on a 1:1 scale, so not sure. :eyecrazy:

[Jt]

darkshine;12133'] in response to nitro's having no valves, obviously not, but does the intake port not open and close, so still having a 'pulse' i really never studied these engines when i was at uni/college, was always on a 1:1 scale, so not sure. :eyecrazy:

Yes it does open and close but the exhaust is opening and closing at almost the same time thats why the added boost get blown through the engine. It would be a different case if these engines were designed like a Detriot 2 stoke diesel engine.

[[hs] darkshine]

they're a fun engine to work on...:bang:

[Jt]

darkshine;12135']they're a fun engine to work on...:bang:

I have done a lot of the 6v92, inline 71 series and 149 series along with the old school cummins 855's and a few 903's which are interesting to work on. That was many moons ago, now its all computer controlled and sensors up the wazoo.:shocked: Real fun

[[hs] darkshine]

it's just not the same plugging in a diagnostic tool and it telling you wtf is wrong. that's why i like the sav, always fun finding the problems!!!:chainkiller:

[R6 DADDY]

i am an auto electrician i wish it was as simple as pluggin diag tool in and it telling you the fault it just doesnt work like that most of the time sometimes its no use at all sometimes it sends you in the wrong direction !!!!!!
:nutshot: :nutshot:

[[hs] darkshine]

i studied motor vehicle engineering for 4 years. i know it' not that simple, but at least (most of the time) it helps. with modern cars, especially cam-bus interfaces (i fit audio and m/media a bit now) it's a big computor, nothing is really mechanical..

[R6 DADDY]

yeah i got the job of tryin to fix problems when multiplex network develops a fault you will know how critical the wiring is on a mux network and they stick it in a car they need their heads looking at
:shocked:

[[hs] darkshine]

yeah, lol. electronics are gereat, but you can have too much of a good thing...:bang:

[R6 DADDY]

yup definately:bigsmilie: all these gadgets that everyone takes for granted are great untill they go wrong
:nutshot:

[gzus11]

just like to throw my bit in, these SCs are just for bling value
the only real increase will be on fuel consumption as any boost pressure will go out the exhaust port with unburnt fuel. they can give a minor performance increase only by expeling all burnt gas oil and fuel for the next combustion. beter performance would come from a well matched performance tuned pipe (back pressure waves etc)

[R6 DADDY]

ok fair point it makes sense when you think about i spose