Project racer.

[Pope]

Okay plans are under way for a CF race savage. Here is my starting point.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/DSCN1050.jpg

What am I doing to it well here it goes.

1)CF TVP's (on the way, Hope I get them soon stupid customs)
2)"Bulletproof" Diffs
3)Ceramic bearings all around (stock ones have cost me 5 pinion gears in a month)
4)ERCM Drag mod Picco .28 (Why drag mod well I have a 250cc tank and the mains are only 10min for MT)http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/welcomepicco.gifhttp://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/calvinpicco.jpg
5) CF bulkhead plates, motor mount plate, and midtank mount (I am going to make these.)
6)Flux axles (The current XL ones are just to wide)

Should be a fun build and with the Ext flm's I will make a basher so two trucks again for me.

[Fx]

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/calvinpicco.jpg

This picture makes me sick. Good luck with the build though.

[Travis Mowery]

Good luck alex. The truck will look sweet.

Travis

[Pope]

Forgot big bore shocks. Thinking of making some lcg cf shock towers as well

[frddyj]

thats a butt-ton of bearings & diffs, you sure its not the shim-job? :sport-smiley-026:

[Pope]

Yea sure. It all started when I replaced the bearings I had with new ones from an XL. I did notice the steal ring in the new bearings that hold the balls are a lot thiner in the new ones than the old 25 ones I used to have.

[Combuster]

have you tried the bearings from smf

[Pope]

Just got the tvp's today and ordered some CF plate.

[Pope]

all holes drilled in the TVP's now just to install them.

[Pope]

Okay went to the LHS last night and picked up some screws to make my own screw kit. (getting tired of the stock screws)

Started putting it together but the motor was too high for the mid tank plate to fit so started grinding and cutting away at the trans case and the tvp's to lower the motor and trans. Almost done that then I just have to get it put together.

[martin34]

Sounds good.Looking forward to seeing some pics.

[Pope]

More crappy BlackBerry photos
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[Londoner]

Looks good Pope, great job!

[kvnnets]

Really nice job Alex.

[Pope]

Thanks guys.

[savage01085]

Looks good, man you need a camera lol.

[Pope]

I have one but it is very hard to get pics off of it as I am having some major computer issues.

[Scott]

Looks good Alex!!

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

any update??

[Pope]

What you see there is now my basher. Truth be told it is still one heck of a race truck but I have deceided to do a from the ground up brand new race truck. I was replacing 95 percent of everything on the truck anyway so why not.

Plus I just got a few new tricks I want to try out.

[Pope]

Okay picked up alot of stuff for this bad boy.

Picco .28 ERCM Drag mod
DX3R
Ace super HT steering servo
Hitech High speed T/B servo
OFNA 086 pipe

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

Get some pics up! What tricks do you have up your sleave?

[Pope]

Get some pics up! What tricks do you have up your sleave?

:nono: Now I can't let everything out of the bag.

Still need big bore shocks doh.

[88gtanotchback]

this sounds like a nice build you got going. nice group of parts. the 1015 rules!

[Pope]

Okay bigbores and extra shafts, eyelets, and alum shock caps coming.

I think this is done for now.

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

get some pics up when you stuff comes in!

[Pope]

Here is what I have gotten so far.

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Here is what it looks like right now just put servo's and a new tank in.

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Here is the body I painted up for it. It isn't cut to fit because I forgot to pick up a body ream but here it is setting on top of the truck. I am hoping to add some picco, ERCM, and Hpiracing stickers very soon.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/DSCN1219.jpg
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[Pope]

Okay i have been getting some mixed reviews on using the Drag mod in a race truck. What do you guys think. Also how many people have had issues with them blowing trans apart?

[Pope]

The picco has arrived. Now I am just waiting for the Big Bore shocks. I am hoping they show up tomorrow so I have them for our bash sunday.

[frddyj]

Okay i have been getting some mixed reviews on using the Drag mod in a race truck. What do you guys think.


kinda late to be asking this question, no?

[Pope]

kinda late to be asking this question, no?

No I will use the drag mod in the basher and just get another race mod for the race truck.

[Pope]

Motor is here. Regardless of what I end up doing for next race season I know One race that I will be able to put this bad boy to work. The Big block class at the WF in may.

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[f1n3sse]

dont forget, a pinch of sand in the carb for breakin to help loosen things up

[Pope]

Big Bore shocks are here. Warning incoming bad blackberry pics. Got extra shock shafts and two part trees to go with them. I also have alum shock caps for them at home.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/IMG00648.jpg
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[I-Hate-Traxxas]

Gonna have a sweet truck there how much you got into her?

[Pope]

lol I don't like to think about it.

[Jon]

im sure with the money into it you could have 2-4 trucks lol looks good pope enjoy it...

[Pope]

Yea quite a few trucks.

[Pope]

Got it all together. Have started breaking in the new motor as well.

Short vid of it running during brakein. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYGR-10Zh_A


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[Pope]

okay ordered up some more stuff.

39 tooth flux idler gear.
45 tooth flux spur gear.
HPI HD DRIVE GEAR 18-23 TOOTH
7 and 9mm carb restrictors for the picco.
New Block for the Picco.
New con rod for Picco.
New front bearing for Picco.
New Main bearing for Picco.
New Motor saver air filter w/ extra element

[Crash]

okay ordered up some more stuff.

39 tooth flux idler gear.
45 tooth flux spur gear.
HPI HD DRIVE GEAR 18-23 TOOTH
7 and 9mm carb restrictors for the picco.
New Block for the Picco.
New con rod for Picco.
New front bearing for Picco.
New Main bearing for Picco.
New Motor saver air filter w/ extra element



whats all the picco parts for? you building another engine?

[Pope]

Ordered them now so that come next summer when the rod and bearings need to be replaced I have them and I don't have to pay an arm and a leg for them.

Also got a back up pull start. I have two owb and owb starting shafts for it from the dead 26.

[Pope]

Well have a few things coming
PRC CF mid-tank plate
Flux axles

I also just built a new high speed flux trans w/ 45 tooth spur. I really like how simple it is and that you can greese your gears now. I also replaced the drive gears at the top with the HD ones.

[Pope]

Okay had to go back to the flm tvp's my cf ones had a few issues. I am going to get some new ones from prc soon though.

Also ordered a techno rc revo wing mount. Anyone ever seen one and will I be able to bolt it to my prc wing plate.

[Pope]

Got to test out the new second gear Flux trans. I must say I like it. I am running it with a 45 tooth flux spur gear and a 18 tooth cb.

I thought that I might have an issue with low end power but yet again the ERCM picco doesn't fail to deliever. It has more than enough power to spin my badlands on concreat even with the fact that it is basicly locked into second gear with a very high gearing on the spur/cb that I would never dream of running on anything else.

[Pope]

New pipe is here along with a tekno wing mount. now all I need is for Jason to get more CF in.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/449e46b4.jpg

[fluxinator]

Alex is robins pipe race legal ????

[Pope]

Depends on the track

[Pope]

work has started again.
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[Hypnotiq]

looking good alex..

[Scott]

Nice Pope!!!

[wildchild27]

sweeet truck alex!!!

[Pope]

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[Mickey]

looking good pope, im liking the wheel selection

[Pope]

Ordered a wing mount plate to fit my tekno wing mount.

http://www.bluegrooveconcepts.com/cart/index.php?target=products&product_id=29921

[Pope]

had to rig up custom standoffs for the steering servo
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put the ercm pipe on.
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Tekno wing mount got the plate coming from bluegroove to put it on.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/4b5df947.jpg

New mount for receiver box made and installed and on/off switch moved to box from rush box.
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[Scott]

Nice job on the standoffs for the steering servo Pope... Thought you had a PRC wing mount? cornfused

[Pope]

I do have a PRC wing mount plate but it doesn't work with the Tekno wing mount as it is much wider than the lightning wing mount.
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/bluegroove.jpg
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu198/ThePopeNJ/Bluegroove2.jpg

The link is above

[texasavage]

Looking good Alex! Thanks for all the pics rockout

[faisalbasha]

whats the HP on that godzilla??

[soulja]

nice build Alex!

[Pope]

No idea on the hp but I can tell you that you would be hard pressed to find a more powerfull motor

[Pope]

Just got in the bluegroove stuff I must say it is very nice

[faisalbasha]

i hears the JL piccos are made in taiwan as opposed to the normal piccos are made in italy......any comments about that????

[soulja]

No idea on the hp but I can tell you that you would be hard pressed to find a more powerfull motor

you WONT! i can damn near guarantee......

[Pope]

i hears the JL piccos are made in taiwan as opposed to the normal piccos are made in italy......any comments about that????

What? I have no idea but I will google that for you.

Edit: A quick google search revieled nothing sorry. I say does it matter??????? Power and quality are power and quality no matter where they are made and I don't have the JL anyway.

[Travis Mowery]

All piccos are made in italy i believe.

Ohh and alex, Im offically jealous of your truck.

[Purenitro]

i hears the JL piccos are made in taiwan as opposed to the normal piccos are made in italy......any comments about that????

The JL engine is a .21 bump start, you are correct, it is not made by picco, rather force engines, the reviews look very promising. The JLR .28 is also a bump start engine and it is made by Picco. The only Picco engine you can run in a Savage is the "P3" or standard pull start Picco .28 which is made in Italy.

[Pope]

All piccos are made in italy i believe.

Ohh and alex, Im offically jealous of your truck.

Thanks. I can't wait to put it on the track against you NL guys.

The JL engine is a .21 bump start, you are correct, it is not made by picco, rather force engines, the reviews look very promising. The JLR .28 is also a bump start engine and it is made by Picco. The only Picco engine you can run in a Savage is the "P3" or standard pull start Picco .28 which is made in Italy.

Thanks for clearing that up Robin.

[Brushlessboy16]

Alex you have to put my revo buddies to shame....

Working on a center diff for my FluxL.

We will see come march

[soulja]

Thanks. I can't wait to put it on the track against you NL guys.





in real race.....you don't stand a chance little man!!!!dance kitty:lmao:

[Brushlessboy16]

Alex your big trash talker and i havent even seen the truck run. Last time you were at the track you blew up the motor.

;)

[soulja]

Alex your big trash talker and i havent even seen the truck run. Last time you were at the track you blew up the motor.

;)

this is just a joke....so don't take it personal because i ain't that type of guy....but you haven't seen a ERCM picco run have ya?!!!?!!!???

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/soulja55/untitled.jpg



this is all out of fun.....just a laugh

[Pope]

Never blew up a motor ever. the motor you talk about is my .26 and that thing is still wicked fast.

Matt don't worry about it I have a whole diffrent motor trans set up for racing

[Brushlessboy16]

Never blew up a motor ever. the motor you talk about is my .26 and that thing is still wicked fast.

Matt don't worry about it I have a whole diffrent motor trans set up for racing

Sorry for the nitro ignorance- i thought 400+ degrees killed nitros

sorry about that:getdown:

[Pope]

Most motors it will. Also depends on the reason it got that hot. To lean yes the motor is dead.

[soulja]

so true!!!!!!!!!

[Pope]

Its all done (except mud guards)

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[Brushlessboy16]

cant wait to see it on the track

[Hypnotiq]

Looks like a winner to me alex... Lets see some video!

[frddyj]

Sorry for the nitro ignorance- i thought 400+ degrees killed nitros
are you guys joking around or did it really get to 400?

Most motors it will. Also depends on the reason it got that hot. To lean yes the motor is dead.
what other reason would cauze it to get it to 400 degrees (if, of course you guys werent joking about it?)

nice build, i like the looks of the wing guard, hope fully she stays straight & tall for ya.

[Pope]

Yea 422 degrees on the .26. It got that hot because I had not cut any vents in the body as I hadn't run it with a body yet I didn't know. It overheated lost all power but I kept going. It was wot so it had a ton of fuel going through it but only limited rpm. When it came off the track it was soked with oil.

The motor is fine though with tons of compression still so it is good to go still.

[Purenitro]

How much flex is in the rear shock tower, if it's anything like the standard ones that radio box or header will be smashed with one good hit to the rear. Just something to think about. Looks great though.

[Pope]

That blue grove wing mount takes it all out it is completly stiff

[Pope]

I ordered everything to put a center diff in the bottom of the trans now just to figure out a way to set up front breaks

[Travis Mowery]

Alex did you strech those badlands over the proline rims?

[Pope]

They are ofna rims maxx size and maxx
size badlands with yellow molded
proline fomes. They fit perfect just belt and glue

[Travis Mowery]

Dang. I got the badlands and strechted them over the proline truggy rims

[Pope]

Posted up a new video of the motor on YouTube still breaking it in ercm endbleed pipe on now. YouTube name is thepopenj

EDIT Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99LY7-nJk34

[frddyj]

Posted up a new video of the motor on YouTube still breaking it in ercm endbleed pipe on now. YouTube name is thepopenj


c'mon, make it easy on us with a link alex :stickpoke:

[Pope]

Can't copy the link on my phone sorry Freddy. I will edit in a link next time I am at a computer

[Pope]

Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99LY7-nJk34

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

man this makes me wannna build another savage! Its so sick! Man I HATE being 16 with no money trying to save for a real car

[Mongoosejoe1]

guess my
finger was in the way

[texasavage]

Awsome! And that's just 1/4 throttle!

Truck came out really good Alex! :10:

Didn't you just put on some Hellfire shock mounts? I was trying to find the pic.

[Pope]

Yep insain I give it 1/2 throtal to start than back it down to 1/4 once it is moving. I had to richen it up a bit as the last time I had run it I was in a heated garage.

The shock parts you are talking about are the blue groove tekno wing wing mount kit

[Pope]

Okay have a issue. The Blue groove wing mount kit doesn't work very well with the BB shocks. You can mount them on any of the bottom three holes but that causes you to raise your ride hight quite a bit. So much infact that the suspension travel won't alow the truck to bottom out it stops about a 1/4 inch off the ground. I am working on getting this fixed. Turning them upside down solves the problem and lets you mount them where ever on the mounts on the top but requires you to cut the front part of the shock mounts on the lower Arm. This worries me a bit.

Second thing I am dealing with is the steering linkage. There is alot of play in it. I am going to measure out and get lunsford turnbuckles with ballstuds and a FLM cross member and see if that helps any.

[Pope]

Truck has had two big changes.

Ercm picco .28 has been sold and replaced with my old picco .26 and the ERCM pipe is gone as well and I either run a THS pipe or and 086 depending. Truck still halls but isn't as loud.