Project Name: Black Magic ..

[Hypnotiq]

You guys know i bought a Savy 21 from a neighbor about a month and a half ago. Bone Stock.. One of the first things i did after several attempts to get her running good. Was bought a F4.6 Mill then made hump pack. Now im just going nuts redoing the whole truck.. My plan is to get this entire truck BLACK. Anything i can do to make that possible i will do. Here is the list of the items im waiting for so added on as of now.. Pictures to follow as the mods get put on.

HPI XL extended chassis (want to paint)
X Diffs (Front & Rear) Got some off e-bay (ThanksWildchild27)
X Arms (Front & Rear) e-bay.com
Black Wing
HPI Savage X GT2 Clear Body (painted gloss black)
Black Cooling head for F4.6 ( need to find one EDIT:Found one.. thanks M0rphin3 ) e-bay.com
Four Phaltline Street Tires for 44 shipped! (Thanks HOLLYWOOD) twscrawlers.com
HPI Racing Blast Wheel, Black, 17mm - #3256 (Thanks LJ!) smfstore.com
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Had a few questions about a few things..

1st) Will the trans need different cups for the dogbones? answered
2nd) wheels that are choose posted above.
3rd) What are some good hexes since i have to upgrade to 17mm.
4th) Any suggestions?? Things i may have missed / need?




SEE BELOW FOR FINISHED PRODUCT!! (http://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12944&page=11)
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5986/hit.gif (http://img509.imageshack.us/i/hit.gif/)

Current upgrades: Black Magic Specs

Picco .28 (not modded.. YET...)
STS 0702 Pipe, Header
Dynamite Max-Life Aluminum Shoes w/ Mugen 1.0mm springs
3 Speed Transmission (High Speed Gears)
FLM EXT TVPS Anodied BLACK
FLM Center skid plate
FLM Midtank plate
FLM motor plate
D8 150CC "clunk tank"
RPM Receiver box Blk
HPI Plastic Roll bar
Big Bore Shocks w/Hellfire shafts & Bad Horsie socks 30WT Oil
RR 48T SG / 16T HD HPI CB
SF1 T&B Servo / Ace RC 1015 Steering Servo
HPI Wing / Mugen Stay // Custom wing mount
HPI Blast wheels on HPI Phaltine tires
Custom Splash Guards
Custom Hump pack 5 AA 2450mah
Spectrum DX3S W/ Telemetry installed

After the original build was complete this is what it looked like.. before all the "upgrades".
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1097/img00379200910191619.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/img00379200910191619.jpg/)
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1309/img00380200910191821.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/img00380200910191821.jpg/)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4760/imgp1741i.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/imgp1741i.jpg/)
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5416/imgp1723r.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/imgp1723r.jpg/)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9940/imgp1740.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/i/imgp1740.jpg/)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3952/imgp1739x.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/i/imgp1739x.jpg/)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7618/imgp1736z.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/imgp1736z.jpg/)
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7739/imgp1735g.jpg (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/imgp1735g.jpg/)
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8747/imgp1760z.jpg (http://img580.imageshack.us/i/imgp1760z.jpg/)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8200/imgp1756m.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/i/imgp1756m.jpg/)
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1841/imgp1763p.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/imgp1763p.jpg/)
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2143/imgp1749w.jpg (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/imgp1749w.jpg/)

Then i was very happy with the build but it wasn't exactly perfect.. so it was time to blow some more money.. FLM Anodized Black TVPS ( LJ is a human search engine.. thank you!) Big Bores and midtank time..

Picco .28 (not modded..)
Extreme RC Mods End Bleed Pipe
Dynamite Max-Life Aluminum Shoes w/ Mugen 1.0mm springs
3 Speed Transmission (High Speed Gears)
FLM EXT TVPS Anodiezed BLACK
FLM Center skid plate
FLM Midtank plate
FLM motor plate
D8 150CC "clunk tank"
RPM Receiver box
Blk HPI Plastic Roll bar
Big Bore Shocks w/Hellfire shafts & 30WT Oil
47T SG / 16T HD HPI CB
Ace RC 1313 T&B Servo / Ace RC 1015 Steering Servo
HPI Wing / Mugen Stay // Custom wing mount
Proline Black Dishes on Dirt Bonez
Custom Hump pack 5 AA 2450mah



http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6995/img00522200912222124.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/img00522200912222124.jpg/)
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/526/imgp0151s.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/i/imgp0151s.jpg/)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/315/img00525200912232053.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/img00525200912232053.jpg/)
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1024/imgp0097.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/imgp0097.jpg/)
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/644/imgp0111k.jpg (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/imgp0111k.jpg/)



Then I said to myself... Looks fast.. but its not.. so it was time to add a couple hop ups to make it fast.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3033/imgp0131k.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/imgp0131k.jpg/)
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7771/imgp0134.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/imgp0134.jpg/)
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/111/imgp0136j.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/imgp0136j.jpg/)
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/268/extremepip.jpg (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/extremepip.jpg/)

Notice the new servo's and relocated the steering servo for LCG. Also Servo plate cleaned sanded and sprayed matte black. (thanks for the servo mounts TripleSix)
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9721/extrmeerc2.jpg (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/extrmeerc2.jpg/)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5497/imgp0129i.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/imgp0129i.jpg/)

Here are the most current/favorite pictures i have... more to come once the weather breaks.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7528/imgp0209p.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/imgp0209p.jpg/)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3620/imgp0241x.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/imgp0241x.jpg/)
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/4310/imgp0102z.jpg (http://img688.imageshack.us/i/imgp0102z.jpg/)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4725/imgp0191f.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/imgp0191f.jpg/)
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/626/imgp0193h.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/imgp0193h.jpg/)

Current Weight
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6484/imgp0201oj.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/imgp0201oj.jpg/)

After all this time it finally made a Xtreme Rc
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2316/blackmagicxtremerc.gif (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/blackmagicxtremerc.gif/)

But i wanna thank all the members of the site that helped me put this beast together.. you know who you are. :cheers:

[M0rphin3]

well i cant answer all of you questions but will comment, the dog bones will fit those cups, no problem on the trans or outerdrive cups.
If your going all black get a set of oem shock springs (black) and get rid of the red ones.

[NITROMITE]

can you say carbon fiber? thats the way to go if you want all black plus it shaves weight.

on another note i just switched my 21 diffs over to the xl diffs and found alot of stuff to change so i am the man for that topic i just got it finished last night
it took 2 months to get done do to the parts i dident think i would need

to do it right you will need

1. xl bulk heads

2. xl dog bones

3. Xl bulk braces

4. xl out drive cups regular or extended (i got the ext and love them)

5. xl diffs

6. xl shock towers

you can use the center dog bones and cups or switch them to the x not xl
hit me up if you have any questions

[M0rphin3]

Im confused here, are you going from 21 diffs to x diffs or xl diffs, if your just going to x then your ok, if going with xl diffs talk to nitromite

[Hypnotiq]

X Diffs.. NOT XL.


If your going all black get a set of oem shock springs (black) and get rid of the red ones.


All ready on there way...


Anyone know about those wheels?

[Pope]

Looking good man. Now take it out and bash it till it falls apart and you will have a reason to do more upgrades.

[frddyj]

Anyone know about those wheels?

look like proline wabash 23 mm. but pm larsen thats his truck in the pic.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pro-Line-PRO268102-Wabash-40-H%2FD-Wheel-23mm-Yellow_W0QQitemZ320427751404QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2 0090924?IMSfp=TL090924185002r24542

[NITROMITE]

yes you are right for some reason i read XL diffs (dont know why)

you are ok everything their should work,

i switched to XL my bad

[Hypnotiq]

look like proline wabash 23 mm. but pm larsen thats his truck in the pic.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pro-Line-PRO268102-Wabash-40-H%2FD-Wheel-23mm-Yellow_W0QQitemZ320427751404QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2 0090924?IMSfp=TL090924185002r24542

They don't come in black? cornfused

[fluxinator]

Get ur mills cooling head painted with heat resistant black.

[Hypnotiq]

Get ur mills cooling head painted with heat resistant black.

Frddy had me PM someone in our vender section to see if they sell a black one.. well see i guess. Know any other place that might have one?

[fluxinator]

if ur looking for a place in turkey i might find a place but i dont know any where in US

[Hypnotiq]

if ur looking for a place in turkey i might find a place but i dont know any where in US

Let me know what you've got.. Might be worth it to finalize this beast.

[Pope]

They don't come in black? cornfused

Get the white ones and dye them black.

[Hypnotiq]

Get the white ones and dye them black.

Black Rit Dye? It will make them a matte black correct?

[Hypnotiq]

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HPI-SAVAGE-WHEELS-Q6-GUNMETAL-3018_W0QQitemZ380166518263QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio _Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item5883b0b5f7

These would look real sweet.. with what wheels though???

[M0rphin3]

Cooling head (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ofna-FORCE-28-BLACK-Head-button-shims-bolts-NEW_W0QQitemZ200391428466QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_ Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2ea8428972) if you are using the F4.6 mill in this truck then this OFNA cooling head will work, and its black, i just recently purchased it due to the very very nice price compared to the HPI cooling head and i didnt like the purple, its a direct bolt on and you even get shims, and a spare button.. i think this is a better option then painting or dying.

[Hypnotiq]

Cooling head (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ofna-FORCE-28-BLACK-Head-button-shims-bolts-NEW_W0QQitemZ200391428466QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_ Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2ea8428972) if you are using the F4.6 mill in this truck then this OFNA cooling head will work, and its black, i just recently purchased it due to the very very nice price compared to the HPI cooling head and i didnt like the purple, its a direct bolt on and you even get shims, and a spare button.. i think this is a better option then painting or dying.

Oh look at that.. someone bought it.. money man

Thanks Mang!

[Hypnotiq]

Phaltline Street Tires

Why are they all sold mounted? poop

[M0rphin3]

that didnt take much convincing :)

[Hypnotiq]

that didnt take much convincing :)

I know i wanna get all this stuff ordered so i can get this project going already!! I prob won't see my chassis till end of next week :Xfingers:



BINGOO!!!! Found the unglued tires!! WOOT WOOT!

http://www.rcplanet.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HPI4886&click=3

[HOLLYW00D]

BINGOO!!!! Found the unglued tires!! WOOT WOOT!

http://www.rcplanet.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HPI4886&click=3

i order from RC Planet a lot, but if you want to save $20 on a set of tires, you may want to check this link out: http://www.tcscrawlers.com/HPI-Racing-Phaltline-Tire-140x70mm-2pcs-4886-p-17902.html

please be warned, i've recently read that the above company, not RC Planet, does not support this forum and, instead, have tried to bribe the forum admins (members?) to promote their products. just a heads up.

[Hypnotiq]

i order from RC Planet a lot, but if you want to save $20 on a set of tires, you may want to check this link out: http://www.tcscrawlers.com/HPI-Racing-Phaltline-Tire-140x70mm-2pcs-4886-p-17902.html

please be warned, i've recently read that the above company, not RC Planet, does not support this forum and, instead, have tried to bribe the forum admins (members?) to promote their products. just a heads up.

Thank you Hollywood... Just bought them.. Now having second thoughts about the wheels.. Might look for others.. Just a little undecided.

Anyone got any recommendations for a black wheel that's NOT a dish?

[Combuster]

maximizer beadlocks, smf is out of stock but pm wrenchman he might be able to help you out
http://storefront.smfstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_165_168_212&products_id=1022

[Hypnotiq]

maximizer beadlocks, smf is out of stock but pm wrenchman he might be able to help you out
http://storefront.smfstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_165_168_212&products_id=1022

Weight issue?

[Combuster]

as for hexes i would either get the stock x ones or if you want some bling you can get these http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-17mm-Hex-Hub-Conversion-Set-S25-SAVX-87229_W0QQitemZ250473822796QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadi o_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3a51673a4c

[Hypnotiq]

as for hexes i would either get the stock x ones or if you want some bling you can get these http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-17mm-Hex-Hub-Conversion-Set-S25-SAVX-87229_W0QQitemZ250473822796QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadi o_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3a51673a4c

Im prob gonna go with stock X ones.. I hate that purple stuff :werd:

[Combuster]

they are not that heavy but if you want light your best bet would be black dish ones

[Hypnotiq]

i want those ones i posted but there 14mm hex.. should i be concerned about that? I just ripped through a set of stock Gt ones. Am i correct in saying that the 17mm's are sturdier?

[Combuster]

yeah 17 is way stronger especially with a more powerful mill you want to have 17

[Hypnotiq]

Ok i need to look into more black wheels.. I really dont like the beadlocks to much. Shopping time..

[Combuster]

how about the blue grove dual offsetshttp://www.bluegrooveconcepts.com/cart/index.php?target=products&product_id=29901

[Hypnotiq]

http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-3013-Q6-truck-rim-wheels-Savage-Tmaxx-RC-part-17-mm_W0QQitemZ290358837172QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_C ontrol_Parts_Accessories?hash=item439abc3fb4

Dude the chrome ones come in 17mm they gotta have the black ones in 17mm... The hunt is on!


EDIT::: http://storefront.smfstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_165_168_212&products_id=1445 THANKS LJ!

FOUND A SET!!! These are it! ORDERED!!

[ljrce]

no problem hyp if u need anything else and cant find it just saysomething or pm wrenchman :partyon:

[Hypnotiq]

Got shipping conformation on most of my items except the tires..

Got in the GT-2 Body today.. Picking up the gloss black paint and the backing paint to. I can't wait to see it finalized. Also what weight oil should i put in my shocks? Also do i need to buy inner foams for these tires?

[Combuster]

i would run 30wt oil in the shocks

[Hypnotiq]

i would run 30wt oil in the shocks

Thanks comb! Yeah pope helped me in the shout.. broken down shock color codes and what they do.. thanks!

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

You gonna mid tank it?

[Hypnotiq]

You gonna mid tank it?

Thought about that this morning actually... I heard its like 100+ to do.. Im gonna go total it up right now.

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

I dont think it will cost that much

[MikeK1981]

I am gonna go with PRC's 250cc mid-tank and if I remember correctly it came to like $125 or close to it. I think that was with shipping too, though.

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

but your prolly going all out you dont have to spend that much. It all depends on what you want and how nice you want it to look.

[Hypnotiq]

i want it to look decent not to cheap looking.. I want the servos mounted to the sides of the TVPs. Big tank also..

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

how big of tank you thinking? If you want the ofna 220cc tank the mother of all tanks you can't use the FLM mid plate you would have to find your own way to mount it or get Jasons mid plate (you CAN'T use the older bulks you need X bulks or newer for mounting the 220cc). I myself like the clean look of the Cen/Mugen tank mod. But other people like the Hellfire, MGT, etc.. look around and find what you like best.

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

Prolly the cheapest nicest looking mid tank you can do. http://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6119

[Hypnotiq]

Ill take a look at that when I get near a pc (blackberry). Thanks man!

Got my EXT XL chassis in / black cooling head / forum stickers!!!

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

Nice man lets see some pics!

[Hypnotiq]

Pics to come.. Painting my EXT chassis already! Ill get pics up later tonight.

[Hypnotiq]

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4104/imgp1697.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/imgp1697.jpg/)
New cooling head..

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/839/imgp1704l.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/imgp1704l.jpg/)
Black painted chassis...

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9707/imgp1705k.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/imgp1705k.jpg/)
Close up

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/2866/imgp1707.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/imgp1707.jpg/)
Forum Stickers.. WOOT WOOT!! REPRESENT!

[Mickey]

looks like you got some nice looking parts hypnotiq should be a sweet truck when it is together. but you are going to need the engine support braces with the notch in them to clear the rear drive shaft with your xl chassis

[Hypnotiq]

Thanks mickey.. Ill look into that tomorrow. I am pretty sure all my items will be in tomorrow.

[Hypnotiq]

Had a buddys wife paint my body...
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2225/img00367200910171046.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/img00367200910171046.jpg/)

stupid air bubble on the windshield ruins it. I will cut a hole up front.

[NITROMITE]

did you remove the protective film? looks like its still on their thats why you have the air bubble.

[Hypnotiq]

Naw dude.. I took the film off..

[Scott]

Try and take a razor blade and poke a hole in the bubbles..Then take something and run over the bubbles to see if that gets rid of them.. Just my
.02.
:peace:

[Hypnotiq]

Thanks savy... gonna try that when i get home.

[Scott]

If you have a small squeege try to run that over top of them..

[Hypnotiq]

looks like you got some nice looking parts hypnotiq should be a sweet truck when it is together. but you are going to need the engine support braces with the notch in them to clear the rear drive shaft with your xl chassis

Your talking this right?
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4433/8607901m.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/8607901m.jpg/)

If so.. im just gonna mod mine. Hopefully it works out!
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Currently waiting on the following to start this badboy..
Phaltline street tires
X Diffs

I hope this stuff is waiting for me when i get home today! That would be sweet!

[Combuster]

yeah those are the ones you need but if you can mod yours go for it

[NITROMITE]

Naw dude.. I took the film off..

ah thats the window sticker. next time cut the glass (center) out and just leave the trim this will elimanate the chance of bubbles.

[Hypnotiq]

@ comp, I'm gonna attempt to mood mine.

@nitromite, I'm debating cutting the front out kinda like a square and leaving just the hpi part aong the top.

Bad news... Everything showed up except those dam diffs... Errrr.. Says forest park so there only about 60-70 miles away!

[NITROMITE]

@ comp, I'm gonna attempt to mood mine.

@nitromite, I'm debating cutting the front out kinda like a square and leaving just the hpi part aong the top.

Bad news... Everything showed up except those dam diffs... Errrr.. Says forest park so there only about 60-70 miles away!
thats what i was saying next time cut it out before you stick it on and you will save the head ach..lol

[Mickey]

yep those are the parts i was mentioning and i think with the xl only 1 needs to be notched. they are easy to mod if you have a round file or a dremil . you only need to remove enough to clear the dog bone

[Hypnotiq]

Yeah I seen a thread someone had made asking the same question and crash had recomended that. I have a dremel just gonna get to work tomorrow and make this happen. Thanks guys!

[Hypnotiq]

well.. heres my attempt ay modding my own. Just so everyone knows i did have to end up modding both braces. Also got my black shocks on you can see in the background!!!
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3148/img00381200910191945.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/img00381200910191945.jpg/)

Stuffs ready... where are my ******** diffs?
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1097/img00379200910191619.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/img00379200910191619.jpg/)

OFNA Black cooling head... I want a new exhaust header..mine looks kinda jacked up.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8821/img00382200910192002.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/img00382200910192002.jpg/)
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7704/img00383200910192002.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/img00383200910192002.jpg/)

Just waiting on my diffs...
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8051/img00384200910192108.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/img00384200910192108.jpg/)

Tires all glued and ready to roll...
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1309/img00380200910191821.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/img00380200910191821.jpg/)

Just waiting on my diffs guys... Hopefully they should be in today.

[kvnnets]

Looks good so far. Nice shock springs :P

[Hypnotiq]

Looks good so far. Nice shock springs :P

No thank you! They look like new and can't wait to check them out!

[NITROMITE]

Looking good Hyp keep the pics going, and cant wait for a vid.

[Hypnotiq]

Thanks nitromite.. Im thinking about incorporating the mid tank to it before i wrap it up. I just think the white tank sticking out the side is gonna ruin the black look. Looking for somewhere to mount my steering servo.

[NITROMITE]

cant help with the mid tank mod i have never done one but good luck you will figure it out or paint the tank black.

[NITROMITE]

oh they probebly sell a black tank cover as well

[Hypnotiq]

cant help with the mid tank mod i have never done one but good luck you will figure it out or paint the tank black.

Check out Vrooms midtank build. Very cheap and looks easy.

[Hypnotiq]

Does anyone know if 21 shock towers will fit on X diffs?

[NITROMITE]

if the x and xl have the same bulks then no! they will line up but not correctly
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/VNCBEARING/Parts/xlshock-1.jpg
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/VNCBEARING/Parts/21shock.jpg

[Hypnotiq]

yeah the X stock towers look like that. AHHH!! To the LHS i guess.

[NITROMITE]

i just searched x shock towers and yes they are the same as the xl. here is a link you get everything you need towers and body mounts for $7.95 and free shipping you cant beat that.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-FLUX-SAVAGE-SHOCK-TOWERS-BODY-POST-MOUNTS-HPI-X_W0QQitemZ110440650824QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_Co ntrol_Parts_Accessories?hash=item19b6c69848

[Hypnotiq]

yeah but i need them NOW! LOL called the LHS hobbytown they have one now trying to hunt down another... Thanks tho nitro! Much appreciated.

[NITROMITE]

im afraid you will need theis as well they are for the xl. sorry
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/VNCBEARING/Parts/coolguys001.jpg

theis were on the old 21
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/VNCBEARING/Parts/86068.jpg

[Hypnotiq]

WTH are those?? Chassis braces?

[MikeK1981]

Those are the links in front of/behind the bulkheads. Here:

http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/86048/

[Hypnotiq]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250512065960&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

I was hoping they came with my diffs but from this picture i dont think so..

[NITROMITE]

this is what they are. this is from the 21 manual.

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/VNCBEARING/Parts/this.jpg

[Hypnotiq]

Thanks nitro.. Shoot i may have to buy four of them. Maybe i can mod up the 21 ones huh?

[NITROMITE]

no they do not come w/diffs, but if you are handy and dont need your old ones you could grind them down, the holes do match up.

[whipnet]

WTH are those?? Chassis braces?

They are arm braces.
I use the graphite ones from HPI.
http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/73070/

http://www.rccoh.com/IMG/land/off-road/hpi.savage/whipnet/flextek.installed.jpg

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[Hypnotiq]

so the 21 ones will not fit on the X diffs.. Hmmm. yeah i may have to buy these.

[NITROMITE]

They are arm braces.
I use the graphite ones from HPI.
http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/73070/

http://www.rccoh.com/IMG/land/off-road/hpi.savage/whipnet/flextek.installed.jpg

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thoes braces work just fine wip, its the upper ones that do not.
http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww305/VNCBEARING/this.jpg

[Hypnotiq]

k.. gotta drive to two different LHS stores to get my Shock towers 15 each. Then now get these doo hickeys. Anyone got a model number for those?

[whipnet]

Yep, I could only use the lower. :(

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[Hypnotiq]

http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/86048/

These right?

[Hypnotiq]

Know what... that looks alot like these things i use at work called mickey mouse keys..
LOOK
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1829/img00385200910201107.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/img00385200910201107.jpg/)

[NITROMITE]

here ya go HYP#86048

[MikeK1981]

http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/86048/

These right?

Yes, I posted that link on the page 8 (last post on page).

[NITROMITE]

Know what... that looks alot like these things i use at work called mickey mouse keys..
LOOK
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1829/img00385200910201107.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/img00385200910201107.jpg/)

you may be able to use them w a little grinding if the square cut outs arnt to big you culd drill them to size its hard to tell from the pic

[Hypnotiq]

Cool.. thanks guys..

[Hypnotiq]

you may be able to use them w a little grinding if the square cut outs arnt to big you culd drill them to size its hard to tell from the pic

Any idea how long the ones are i need? Im gonna size these up now.

Edit: 3"

[NITROMITE]

Any idea how long the ones are i need? Im gonna size these up now.

Edit: 3"
4x54x3mm
let us know how everything works out for ya

[Hypnotiq]

yeah.. ill either have pictures or rant. LOL

[Hypnotiq]

sent the driver at work to go scoop these up at a LHS close to my work.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2117/img00387200910201355.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/img00387200910201355.jpg/)

Still have one more to go get plus my upper arm braces Do i need 4 or just 2 arm braces?

[NITROMITE]

just two one for frount and one for back. your almost their

[Hypnotiq]

just two one for frount and one for back. your almost their

sweet.. all the rest is on hold.. Ready for pickup!! TONIGHT!!! i aint going to bed till its done!!

[NITROMITE]

That's Mr. Nitro Junky to YOU !

thats funny! my myspace name is
Savage Junkie

[whipnet]

Junkie XL was a sweet band. LOL.
Sorry.

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[Hypnotiq]

Well here it is gents.. all finalized.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4361/imgp1722i.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/imgp1722i.jpg/)
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/121/imgp1720t.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/imgp1720t.jpg/)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8496/imgp1719.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/imgp1719.jpg/)
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5416/imgp1723r.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/imgp1723r.jpg/)
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1891/imgp1728t.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/i/imgp1728t.jpg/)

I haven't even ran this thing yet.. Started her once and gave her a rev and thats it. Tomorrow ill get some video of this thing. I wanna thank all of you that are extremely helpful with this build.. I love the way it came out! More mods to come im sure!

-HYP
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7618/imgp1736z.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/imgp1736z.jpg/)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7571/imgp1737f.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/imgp1737f.jpg/)
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1640/imgp1741.jpg (http://img96.imageshack.us/i/imgp1741.jpg/)
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8140/imgp1733y.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/imgp1733y.jpg/)
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2698/imgp1740u.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/imgp1740u.jpg/)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/7798/imgp1739.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/imgp1739.jpg/)

[ljrce]

nice job hyp thing looks awsome

[Hypnotiq]

thanks LJ! I am extremely excited about this.. Can't wait to get home tomorrow and play with it! Thanks for hooking me up with nick BTW!

[BIGDAN89]

looks like one of the lowriders with the tires thatare rubberbands that do squat so why have them lol

[Hypnotiq]

looks like one of the lowriders with the tires thatare rubberbands that do squat so why have them lol

Thanks i guess...

[Combuster]

thing came out nice bro

[88gtanotchback]

Thanks i guess...

LMAO. sweet truck bud. that turned out sick. look forward to the video!

[Hypnotiq]

LMAO. sweet truck bud. that turned out sick. look forward to the video!

Thanks 88! Your Ext XL's look great on there!!

[NITROMITE]

looks great!! but the fuel tank and all that purple is blinding me!!lol

[Hypnotiq]

looks great!! but the fuel tank and all that purple is blinding me!!lol

Thanks nitro... Midtank is next and yea.. trying to get rid of all the purp a piece at a time.

[NITROMITE]

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4361/imgp1722i.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/imgp1722i.jpg/)

can i get a copy of that poster you got their? lol

[Hypnotiq]

Maxim... Its a hell of a magazine!!

[NITROMITE]

LMAO!! i thought i was the only one that bought MAXIM LMAO!!
CROWN YOUR SAVAGE you have no reason to call it a 21 anymore..lol welcome to MODS

[Crash]

I like it~


















evil clown






:axial:

[Londoner]

Looks great HYP Lovin those black blast rims, id never seen them before only the chrome ones, they look sick!

Whats your mid tank plans for the XL chassis? I did mine with the FLM servo plate/mounts and made my own throttle/brake servo plate screwed to the stock fuel tank holes in the TVP.

[Hypnotiq]

Looks great HYP Lovin those black blast rims, id never seen them before only the chrome ones, they look sick!

Whats your mid tank plans for the XL chassis? I did mine with the FLM servo plate/mounts and made my own throttle/brake servo plate screwed to the stock fuel tank holes in the TVP.


Yeah when the blasts arrived in the packages i said.. OH man!! These are gonna look hot! Thanks londoner!

Midtank... Well when i was at the LHS i picked these up RPM servo mounts (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEU69&P=FR) Gonna give them a try. I was thinking about making my own plate for the tank and mounting my steering servo to the side of the chassis. I still have no idea what tank to even go with. MY LHS doesn't have many and i wanna make sure i order the right one. Other than that the linkage should be rather easy. Ill keep you guys posted!! Thanks for all the C&C!

Also i have a black wing coming.. Should i mount it or leave it as is? I kinda like this look.

[Londoner]

Sounds good, you may wanna integrate your steering servo into the mid tank plate though, i couldnt find a way of mounting it to the XL TVP without making up some sort of plate to mount to the TVP first but you may be more inventive than me and pull it off lol

The wing comes down to preference i guess, if you like it off leave it off, i love running a wing, it helps keep your head from touching the ground too, but youl need to cut your body to mount it though iv found having the wing really helps protect the body from damage at the rear.

[Hypnotiq]

Sounds good, you may wanna integrate your steering servo into the mid tank plate though, i couldnt find a way of mounting it to the XL TVP without making up some sort of plate to mount to the TVP first but you may be more inventive than me and pull it off lol

The wing comes down to preference i guess, if you like it off leave it off, i love running a wing, it helps keep your head from touching the ground too, but youl need to cut your body to mount it though iv found having the wing really helps protect the body from damage at the rear.

Thanks for the advise on the steering servo.. I do want the wing i do have a black one on the way i just didn't wanna cut the body. I might end up doing it. I do like the idea of it protecting the head because i really don't wanna scratch it up. It also my fill that gap i have from the shock tower to the rear bumper.

[kvnnets]

That's one sweet looking truck. I love the all black look. You did a great job.

[Pope]

Looking good my friend; looking good.

[Hypnotiq]

Thanks a lot guys.. On my way home now!! Can't wait!

[Scott]

Man that is one sweet looking truck you have there hyp!! Really like the wheel and tire combo.

[Hypnotiq]

Man that is one sweet looking truck you have there hyp!! Really like the wheel and tire combo.

Thanks alot! I was having a tuff time with her yesterday tuning and trying to figure out why she would die right after id give it full throttle. After inspecting it for leaks and what not i found some fuel on the buttom of the cooling head then on my fuel line. I re tightened down my cooling head and replaced the fuel tube.. nothing. Come to see something dangling from my exhaust head. Then found this...
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1433/img00397200910212120.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/img00397200910212120.jpg/)

Im thinking / hoping this was my issue.. Picking one up on the way home.. Guess we will find out later tonight.

I uploaded some more pics here. http://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=138962#post138962

[Hypnotiq]

After alittle mishap yesterday cracking my exhaust i had to hunt one down.. me being inpatient i went to the LHS and just bought it. Thanks to the members that were HELPFUL in guiding me in the right direction.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2915/imgp1742a.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/imgp1742a.jpg/)

Runs great :rock: working on making a video for you guys!

[texasavage]

looking good bud! your savy's come a long way in the last couple of months.

[NITROMITE]

looking great hyp

[wildchild27]

Thanks for the advise on the steering servo.. I do want the wing i do have a black one on the way i just didn't wanna cut the body. I might end up doing it. I do like the idea of it protecting the head because i really don't wanna scratch it up. It also my fill that gap i have from the shock tower to the rear bumper.

also if your showing of,the wing can also double as a wheelie bar lol and its pretty stable.

[Hypnotiq]

also if your showing of,the wing can also double as a wheelie bar lol and its pretty stable.

Yeah as you can see from that pic ive already done a number on my cooling head.. Gonna order another and add the wing as soon as i find some time. Thanks eric!

What do you guys think about bashing like jumps and backflips with these wheels / tires? That a big no no? Should i slap the stock ones back on for bashing?

[Combuster]

those wheels will definitely take a beating but with phatlines wont get any traction on dirt

[Hypnotiq]

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4725/img00416200910292145.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/img00416200910292145.jpg/)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6973/img00417200910292145.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/img00417200910292145.jpg/)

Sorry for the crappy pics..Couldnt find my camera but now looking at these pics its on my iHome. Here it is.. all winged up. I plan on buying a new OFNA head because i scuffed this one up pretty bad. Time to test it as soon as it stops RAINING!!!

[NITROMITE]

looks good with that wing

[kvnnets]

The wing adds a nice touch. Looks great. That's one sweet looking truck.

[Hypnotiq]

Thanks guys!! Im actually making a new mount right now at work. I wanna make the wing stay alittle lower so it almost sits even with the lip of the tail of the truck.

More pics to come!

[wildchild27]

kinda like this jr?
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu241/wildchild27_2009/IMGA0257.jpg

btw nice batmobile lol jk thats a nice truck man

[Hypnotiq]

Yes eric! LOLz at the bat mobile.. that is what my son calls it. Im making a different wing mount as we speak and adding different holes so i can adjust the wing up or down. Looks good so far.. oh and look.. my paint just arrived!

[wildchild27]

have you cut a hole in the windshield for some air flow to help keep the bad boi cooled?

[Hypnotiq]

have you cut a hole in the windshield for some air flow to help keep the bad boi cooled?

I know i need to.. I just haven't yet.. Kinda wanna cut out the entire windshield from under the HPI windshield decal. Just kinda tossing ideas around so it still looks good.

New wing mount is a wrap. Mounting from the shock holes to the bottom where the shock tower screws into the diff.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3415/img00419200910301302.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/i/img00419200910301302.jpg/)
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7700/img00421200910301302.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/img00421200910301302.jpg/)

[MikeK1981]

I cut out the whole windshield on my stock XL body. I like the way it looks a little better than having just a hole there but it does make the body a little more prone to splitting around that area.

[Hypnotiq]

I cut out the whole windshield on my stock XL body. I like the way it looks a little better than having just a hole there but it does make the body a little more prone to splitting around that area.

Got any pics? I really wanna go that route but the splitting was another one of my concerns. I was gonna dremel the corners so it looks nice and rounded off.

[MikeK1981]

Here you go:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/kirkpatrick8183/RC/CIMG0021.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/kirkpatrick8183/RC/CIMG0023.jpg

[MikeK1981]

Why didn't those show on the post? Oh, well you should still be able to see them. I also dremeled the grill out to make it functional.

[Hypnotiq]

Cut the grill out so it can let a little air in.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6940/imgp1748n.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/imgp1748n.jpg/)
How i attached the wing mount.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2914/imgp1746.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/imgp1746.jpg/)
Rear shot..
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3418/imgp1751.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/imgp1751.jpg/)
Sits right where i wanted it.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2143/imgp1749w.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/imgp1749w.jpg/)

Only thing that happened in this entire mod was i drill one hold in the wing incorrectly... Ill get one once i break this one.

[Hypnotiq]

Quick question guys...

I bought this servo saver (http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/87197/) installed it and my Jr Z590M servo will only turn it in one direction. Doesn't have the power to turn the other direction. I had to remove it and put my stock one from my 21 back in. MY question is how many oz of torque do you need to turn one of these? I do wanna upgrade my servo but don't have the funds for a hundred dollar one.

[Pope]

I had that set up for a few months and never had an issue except for when I put it in at first I put the arms on the servo saver the wrong way around. the 590 is 85 oz but it will get the job done. Good luck getting it right.

P.S. I love the truck.

[Hypnotiq]

Ill give it another try tonight alex.. thanks for the reply.

[Hypnotiq]

I couldnt for the life of me figure out why i couldnt brake at all... I thought.. humps dead.. Charged and checked... nothing. So i took the brakes off come to find that hex was completely stripped and the pad was just spinning around it. Since i was still using a .21 brake set i upgraded to the Savy X setup.. Needless to say i am VERY PLEASED! Can we say endo?! lol

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9595/imgp1756.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/imgp1756.jpg/)

Rant....

After bashing for about an hour or so... Just ripping in the street... Broke yet again another servo case.. I am sooo FED up with this.. that makes 3 cases broken. I have to figure this issue out.

/Rant

[kvnnets]

Here you go:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/kirkpatrick8183/RC/CIMG0021.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc314/kirkpatrick8183/RC/CIMG0023.jpg

Hey Mike,

It might be a good idea to get some door screening and gluing it around the window and grill. This will keep the airflow going but help keep most dirt and stones out.

[Hypnotiq]

Hey Mike,

It might be a good idea to get some door screening and gluing it around the window and grill. This will keep the airflow going but help keep most dirt and stones out.


I was thinking about that the other day at work for my grille.

[kvnnets]

I was thinking about that the other day at work for my grille.

It works great. I did that with my old body. I wish I had some pics. Sorry.

[Hypnotiq]

Well i have some major adjusting to do with my tranny and i am starting to believe my clutch shoes are not biting.

Current plans...

Dynamite Max-Life shoes (http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/products_id/10016/n/Dynamite-Max-Life-Aluminum-Clutch-Shoe-Set) (props justin) Ordered
Racing Clutch Bell 17 T (http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/77107/)
HD Spur Gear 47 T (http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/77127/)

Might have a deal on a 3Speed Tranny... just need to looking into if the high speed third gear is installed. I dont believe it came out of an XL.

Question:

How difficult is it to change out the clutch shoes? Should i be ordering new springs as well? IF so which do you recommend?

[orcusomega]

I like the idea of adding the screening to the windows to keep out debris - I need to do the same to other parts of the truck I think :)

Love the look of that truck - VERY slick.

[Hypnotiq]

I like the idea of adding the screening to the windows to keep out debris - I need to do the same to other parts of the truck I think :)

Love the look of that truck - VERY slick.

Thanks.. this is what i did..
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/157/img00435200911081157.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/img00435200911081157.jpg/)

Looks very nice on the truck with the body mounted.

[Combuster]

for springs i would get mugen 1.0 springs and i think clutches are pretty easy to change but the first time i did it, it was a pain

http://storefront.smfstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=32_128&products_id=116

[Hypnotiq]

Thanks for the linkage comb.

Yeah my LHS has them shoes in stock.. After i receive my springs ill attack this. Got a 17t HD CB coming to!

[orcusomega]

How did you mount the screen so that it did not work loose? I like that idea a lot - since I am going to need a body soon,. this will help me keep it in one piece and not have to hack it to pieces :)

Anyone every try using an air duct to help channel air over the cooling fins?

Bob

[Hypnotiq]

How did you mount the screen so that it did not work loose? I like that idea a lot - since I am going to need a body soon,. this will help me keep it in one piece and not have to hack it to pieces :)

Anyone every try using an air duct to help channel air over the cooling fins?

Bob

Stretch after i hot glued one side. Tryed my Bronco body last night.. i must say.. i do like the look.

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3591/img00440200911092115.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/img00440200911092115.jpg/)

[Hypnotiq]

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/842/img00447200911101927.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/img00447200911101927.jpg/)

Finally got an exhaust coupler last night... nice and snug. Just need to pickup some zip ties. Got some 3Mx10 Allen screws to replace the entire chassis.. Now i have to get some 4Mx10 for the motor mounts. Its coming along. Deal still pending with 3speed tranny.

[MikeK1981]

As far as the clutch springs go you can use the stock ones however I noticed that the Dynamite max-life shoes have a small bump on them to give clearance between them and the flywheel so the hpi springs can't reach the groove in the nut very well. I'm running them and they do hold but you can pull the shoes off very easily which doesn't seem good. I have run several tanks on them with no issues though.

[Hypnotiq]

As far as the clutch springs go you can use the stock ones however I noticed that the Dynamite max-life shoes have a small bump on them to give clearance between them and the flywheel so the hpi springs can't reach the groove in the nut very well. I'm running them and they do hold but you can pull the shoes off very easily which doesn't seem good. I have run several tanks on them with no issues though.

Going with Mugen 1.0mm springs! Thanks for the reply though mike. I really would like to be able to wheelie my savy with the Ext TVP on. Just the goal i kinda have going at the moment.

[Hypnotiq]

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4442/imgp1758.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/imgp1758.jpg/)

This is what my clutch shoe looks like.. I was gonna put on my dynimate max lifes but need the mugen springs.. I called the LHS and once again.. they dont have what im looking for.. Ordered them from SMF!!

[MikeK1981]

I have been playing around with all different things with my truck to get it wheellying consistently. Tried different fuel, plugs, max-life clutch shoes, etc. I have an XL with the 5.9 in it still. I'm running Sidewinder 30% nitro, 10% oil with a medium cold plug. I have it wheelying pretty good now, but I notice that having my shocks softer makes it harder to wheely. I have the adjustable aluminum bodied shocks and I notice that if I stiffen all the shocks it helps get the torque to the chassis better. Otherwise the shocks soak up most up the chassis movement. My engine is running very strong now and my cltuch seems to be grabbing better. I am now seeing the traction as the weak point for getting the front end up. It seems to spin the terra-pinns everywhere now. Pavement and grass both. If the tires grab enough, it picks the front end up form a stop now, which is basically all I wanted. I don't want the front wheels to constantly be in the air, but it's nice to show off once and a while LOL.

[Hypnotiq]

Thanks for the reply mike...

I am doing the following things to get this started..

Dyanmite Max-Life shoes
Mugen 1.0mm springs
17T HD clutch bell
47T Steel Spur
220Cen tank (mid-tank)
Radio box behind the mill
Hump back behind the mill
Throttle / Brake servo to rear (midtank)

Basically trying to transfer some weight to the rear of the truck. Talked to a few of the guys in the shout the other day and tossed some ideas around.. this might work other than me not knowing where im gonna mount the steering servo without a plate. Just gonna go with two aluminum motor mounts one on the servo saver one by the tranny.. I believe savagesam runs that setup for his midtank.

[wildchild27]

you gettin the HD cb cuz with the steel spur youll need the vented 17T cb instead of the HD one

[Hypnotiq]

you gettin the HD cb cuz with the steel spur youll need the vented 17T cb instead of the HD one

Oh man.. i hope thats not true because i believe i already ordered the HD one. bad driver

[Bankrupter]

Oh man.. i hope thats not true because i believe i already ordered the HD one. bad driver

Its true. I know the HD,HD thing you would think is a matched set but its not. Only the vented race bells.

Hey side note I forgot you got that mill from me. How is it running ?

[Hypnotiq]

Its true. I know the HD,HD thing you would think is a matched set but its not. Only the vented race bells.

Hey side note I forgot you got that mill from me. How is it running ?

Yeah im gonna check my order in a bit.. I think its the hd one.. ERRRR.

Yeah bank thats the F mill... no complaints from me. Things ripping still.. As you can see from the pics above clutch shoe finally ripped but i got those dynimate max lifes you recommended just waiting on my mugen springs and ill post on how its goes from there. I definitely see a modded pico in this projects future.

[MikeK1981]

How did that hump pack ever work out for you hyp? How long do they last you before they need charging? They were 2700mah right? I'm using the 1200mah still but I got a 1600 coming for super cheap brand new from max amps. I think it was like $16 and I had a $10 coupon from them in my email. I figure I'll just keep them both charged and have the 1200 in my tool box just in case I run out of juice one day away from home.

[Hypnotiq]

How did that hump pack ever work out for you hyp? How long do they last you before they need charging? They were 2700mah right? I'm using the 1200mah still but I got a 1600 coming for super cheap brand new from max amps. I think it was like $16 and I had a $10 coupon from them in my email. I figure I'll just keep them both charged and have the 1200 in my tool box just in case I run out of juice one day away from home.

I get about 3 good runs with one before it needs recharging. I went from the stock setup to this and WOW what a difference. Im just trying to find a battery box to mount to my shock tower. I dont know if it will fit in there.

[Hypnotiq]

Clutches shoes are easier to install than i thought. Took me about 10 mins tops. Tried to run her but need to tune her a bit. Since it gets dark at 5 here ill have to wait till tomorrow. Heres a pic of the dynimate shoes installed.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6370/imgp1760.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/imgp1760.jpg/)


EDI: 7:45pm
Took her out to a well lit parking lot! Tuned her up! Its running like a rapped ape. Just waiting on my 3 speed tranny stuff and 17T CB!!

[Hypnotiq]

Well looks like ill be assembling my 3speed tranny with high speed gears tomorrow and still waiting on my 17T CB and SF-5 Servo! Got a set of big bores headed this way also. Got about another hundred to toss into this thing till im gonna have to wait till after x-mas to do anything else.

Two things im thinking about doing...

1.) Mid-tank setup
2.) 2.4 Tx/Rx

What you guys think?

[MikeK1981]

Go with the radio for sure. This is something you should have ASAP. The mid tank can wait, especially if your truck is running good with minimal HTL.

[Hypnotiq]

Spektrum DX3S is probably what im gonna go with.. After ive had some help researching it i may go pick this beast up on my way home.. Thanks LJ!!

[ljrce]

no problem glad to help

[farmawi]

looks great like the Clutche shoes you've got
cheers

[Hypnotiq]

looks great like the Clutche shoes you've got
cheers

Thanks homeslice. Wait till you see what i toss in there next... muahahahha!

[farmawi]

lol sounds like your savy will be a great monster.........
wish you'll get all that you want from it......
it's all about speed....lol....

[Hypnotiq]

Some shoots for you guys.


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2639/imgp1774n.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/imgp1774n.jpg/)
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/175/imgp1773.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/imgp1773.jpg/)
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5295/imgp1772a.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/imgp1772a.jpg/)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8854/imgp1769.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/imgp1769.jpg/)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6465/imgp1767u.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/imgp1767u.jpg/)
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6436/imgp1766c.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/imgp1766c.jpg/)
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4652/imgp1764.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/imgp1764.jpg/)
Charges my rechargeable s ^

Havent used it yet.. rain :crazy:. TOMORROW!!!

3speed high gear installed.. going in later this evening.
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1841/imgp1763p.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/imgp1763p.jpg/)

[ljrce]

looks awsome let us know how u like it

[farmawi]

great pic's there.....
let us know how you like it.....

[Scott]

Yeah jr very interested in how you like the Speky..

[MikeK1981]

You will like the high speed 3rd gear. Makes a big difference in speed in my truck, when it hits third.

[Hypnotiq]

Tonight: Cloudy, with a low around 35. West wind around 5 mph.


Ill probably get a few runs in tonight to get a fell for the speky. I wanna pick up a servo extension for the temp on the engine to se how that works.. Ill work on the RPM thing after i figure this out. Was very easy to install also. Took me about 10 mins.

3speed.. I didn't finish putting the thing in the tranny last night but will have plenty of time this evening.

@mike, I set it at 2 1/2 turns for 2nd and 5 turns in for 3rd. Any other recommendations?

[fluxinator]

Tell me how you like it im picking mine up this Monday =)

[Hypnotiq]

Tell me how you like it im picking mine up this Monday =)

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Lake+In+The+Hills&state=IL&site=LOT&textField1=42.187&textField2=-88.3465

Yeah weather permitting ill be out there this afternoon.. :beer: Gonna pickup my servo extensions on my lunch break.

[Hypnotiq]

Ahem :clears throat:

Well after trying out and holding a few different radios i went with the Spektrum DX3S on Wednesday. Finally got a chance to tinker with it yesterday after installing the Telemetry temp sensor for the cooling head. After preheating i used my gun vs my radio and my radio was off my 2 degrees. So i took her out for a minute to test my 3 speed shift points. I must say it does feel a little more responsive. No problems at all with turning or trigger.. everything seems to be on point just with a better feel with this beautiful controller in my hand. After running for about 5-8 mins a overheat warning came up on the LCD when the mill hit 220F. I said.. well i don't like that.. Looking into how to remove that now. Gonna give the RPM sensor a shot this evening.. Might as well use this thing to its full potential.

Any questions?

[Hypnotiq]

Couple new upgrades...
SF-5 servo.. not the best but gets me out of my JrZ590M id NEVER recommend to anyone.
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4672/imgp1782.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/imgp1782.jpg/)

Some Bigbores..
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/299/imgp1778.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/imgp1778.jpg/) http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/imgp1778.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img69/imgp1778.jpg/1/)
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6149/imgp1777.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/imgp1777.jpg/)

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

What springs are on those big bores?

[Mickey]

better yet what kind of slash gaurds are on the rear suspension?

[Hypnotiq]

I honestly couldn't tell ya what springs they are but will find out for ya!

[MikeK1981]

I noticed the springs as well, they look nice. As for the tranny settings, I had to do mine by feel. It didn't shift right out of the box so I took it apart and put it to the factory specs but that didn't work for me either. It was going from 1st to 3rd. For some reason second was way too tight at "factory" specs. I don't know if I have a funky spring in there or what but the second time I took it apart I just used a small flathead screwdriver to open up the clutch piece for each gear and that's when I figured out that 2nd had way more tension. So I readjusted both gears until second had tension that felt like it was in between the other two gears and then tested it. It was using all three gears at that point and all it took was one more time into the tranny to fine tune 2nd, since 3rd can be done outside the truck. It works great now but for some reason the factory settings were way off for mine.

[Hypnotiq]

What springs are on those big bores?

Found out they are Integy springs... so ill keep you posted on the life of them. lol

[Hypnotiq]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5623/img00459200911241238.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/i/img00459200911241238.jpg/)

Pads / 48T RR Spur / 16T CB

[MikeK1981]

Let me know how you like that gearing. Now that I have my LSN issues worked out and the new dynamite max-life clutch shoes in the XL is wheelying like a champ and keeping temps around 235-245 degrees even on a low (stock) fuel tank. If I'm moving too quickly it doesn't wheely too hard but it will pick the front wheels up like 3-4" and take off though. Anything under like 15 mph though and it will flip right over even with the HPI wheely bar on, if I hit too hard. I'm using the 16/52 combo but wouldn't mind experimenting with my gears a little. It does seem to get really good top speed even with those gears though. Just about as fast as my touring car with a 2 speed in it on flat pavement. Plus, the savvy can go that fast pretty much everywhere LOL.

[Hypnotiq]

Put it on last night. Im strapped it to my PVC stand on my workbench and fired her up. im happy with the gears so far.. Id have to let you guys know on Friday when it stops raining. Ill keep you posted mike!

Im just kinda unsure about this setup... what you think?
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9454/img00462200911241558.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/img00462200911241558.jpg/)
By iamhypnotiq (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/iamhypnotiq)

[MikeK1981]

By the pic it looks fine to me. I loosened my slipper a very tiny amount before but I'm gonna tighten it down completely and see what happens. I thought it may have been causing me a problem but I don't think it was after all so I'm gonna snug it back down. You should get really good top speed with the smaller spur, especially with the phaltlines on, but I don't how much gain you will see. I know guys with really powerful mills run even higher gears cause they can get away with it. 17/47 seems to be a common setup from what I've read here.

[Hypnotiq]

By the pic it looks fine to me. I loosened my slipper a very tiny amount before but I'm gonna tighten it down completely and see what happens. I thought it may have been causing me a problem but I don't think it was after all so I'm gonna snug it back down. You should get really good top speed with the smaller spur but I don't how much gain you will see. I know guys with really powerful mills run even higher gears cause they can get away with it. 17/47 seems to be a common setup from what I've read here.

That what i was going for... they didnt have any at the LHS.. Seen this RR steel spur and wanted it.. Im sure it will do the job. Friday morning.. I should have an answer for you.

[MikeK1981]

Cool. It's sunny here today and it was really nice yesterday too. The savvy and my heli are both running extremely well, so I'll be goin' out.

[Hypnotiq]

looks great runs great...
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8427/imgp1790j.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/imgp1790j.jpg/)
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1663/imgp1792.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/imgp1792.jpg/)

Went to the LHS this is the only 30% anything they had
33% Byrons 2nd Gen
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/174/imgp1799.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/imgp1799.jpg/)

[MikeK1981]

I'm using 30% nitro/10% oil Sidewinder Pro Race and love it. Did the spur make a big difference in top speed?

[Hypnotiq]

Mike i went with a 49T Spur / 17T CB. Let me say.. it love it.. The thing really flys..

Shock Covers!!

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7375/cimg0508.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/cimg0508.jpg/)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6917/cimg0514x.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/cimg0514x.jpg/)

Also went and returned the 33% and went 30% nitro 10% oil sidewinder pro race.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/360/cimg0512h.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/cimg0512h.jpg/)

Let me just say.. i love it!

[MikeK1981]

That is the fuel I'm running and it works great. Also they say you don't need ARO with sidewinder fuels because of an additive thats already in it. Normally I don't go for wild marketing gimmicks but I'm a believer, just because I have always run sidewinder in my HPI Super Nitro RS4 and it still has the stock .15 in it 6 YEARS later and it still runs like champ. Never used ARO in it once, over the years, and it was stored in a garage for most of that time. I'm pretty happy with the stock 16/52 gears in the XL for now, it gives me good wheelies at low speeds and still seems fast to me on the top end. I might try 17/49 or even 19/49 if I get a new mill though.

[M0rphin3]

hypnotiq can u give me some more info on where or how you did the shock covers for the big bores? also the dirt guards on the back arms are they home made? or bought?

[Hypnotiq]

hypnotiq can u give me some more info on where or how you did the shock covers for the big bores? also the dirt guards on the back arms are they home made? or bought?

ypgm homie..

[Hypnotiq]

Got Sway Bar installed up front!
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6480/img00482200912021814.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/img00482200912021814.jpg/)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3492/img00485200912021815.jpg (http://img228.imageshack.us/i/img00485200912021815.jpg/)
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3669/img00486200912021815.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/img00486200912021815.jpg/)
God i need to get rid of that bulky hump.


Straight off a flux.. wheelie bar!!
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1571/img00484200912021815.jpg (http://img301.imageshack.us/i/img00484200912021815.jpg/)

testing the sways tomorrow..ill let you guys know what i think.

[ljrce]

the sway bars will respond alot better with a picco .28

[Hypnotiq]

the sway bars will respond alot better with a picco .28

lol.. i knew it.. couldn't resist huh. Come January modded picco + ERCM pipe will be on this badboy.

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

Getting to be a sweet truck!

[Hypnotiq]

When your bored and got a savy... what else is there to do at 9pm..
30 degree and windy... burrr..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSJ7zlK2208
Video via blackberry.

[Hypnotiq]

also have a question...

Do you guys think its possible to mount a OFNA 250 tank on engine mounts inlo of the plate? I would really like to not have to go with a plate..

[fluxinator]

also have a question...

Do you guys think its possible to mount a OFNA 250 tank on engine mounts inlo of the plate? I would really like to not have to go with a plate..

Why do u care u sold ur savage right ???

[Hypnotiq]

Why do u care u sold ur savage right ???

Do you really think after all this time and money building it i would let it go for a traxxas? if you believed that then you really are a n00b.

[fluxinator]

ohh thank good :jumpers:

[Hypnotiq]

ohh thank good :jumpers:

:boxers: :punchs: learn :punches: how :punches: to :punches: spell

Mods to come over winter:

1.) Picco drag modd with ERCM side pipe.
2.) Midtank setup
3.) Carbon or Black FLM EXT TVPS w/ Carbon motor mount

[fluxinator]

:boxers: :punchs: learn :punches: how :punches: to :punches: spell

Mods to come over winter:

1.) Picco drag modd with ERCM side pipe.
2.) Midtank setup
3.) Carbon or Black FLM EXT TVPS w/ Carbon motor mount

LOL im sick dont mess with me

[MikeK1981]

Are you going to try an engine plate, or are you talking about the cross-members that go under the engine plate? You can use those cross-members and then just cut and drill your own piece of aluminum for really cheap. But then you'll need cut and drill another small plate to mount your T/B servo where the stock tank used to go.

[Hypnotiq]

Are you going to try an engine plate, or are you talking about the cross-members that go under the engine plate? You can use those cross-members and then just cut and drill your own piece of aluminum for really cheap. But then you'll need cut and drill another small plate to mount your T/B servo where the stock tank used to go.

Yeah my plan is the following...

Take cross members and use them as stands for the tank.. one over the servo saver and other by tranny.. ( i think the tanks longer) Use flat alum on the tvps to mount the servos.. i may just told off and buy the midtank with the TVPS and then it would make things real easy.

[MikeK1981]

I've seen plenty of people do a mid tank on the cheap. You want the tank to sit right on the cross members? You could always use a plate on the cross members first as a platform for the tank to sit on, then use some nuts and bolts to make mounts for the tank similar to what the PRC mid tank plate has standing up off of it.

[Hypnotiq]

yeah i was thinking like the cross members with like whatever i needed to come out with to mount the tank then the center would be empty. Does that make sense?

[MikeK1981]

Yeah it makes sense. Never seen it done that way. If the opening underneath is too big it may cause a problem if something puts any weight on the top center of the tank. I have heard these ofna 250's crack easily and have seen a few pics of broken ones that were only in minor wrecks. Just something to consider.

[NITROMITE]

dont play arround like that. i was ready to drive up their and burn that t-max to the ground.LMAO

[MikeK1981]

A full plate would give a little more support for the tank and help prevent any flexing in the plastic.

[Hypnotiq]

Yeah it makes sense. Never seen it done that way. If the opening underneath is too big it may cause a problem if something puts any weight on the top center of the tank. I have heard these ofna 250's crack easily and have seen a few pics of broken ones that were only in minor wrecks. Just something to consider.
Ok.. so maybe thats not such a good idea then. lol. I think im gonna wait till i get the TVPS so i have all the servo holes ready and things will be much easier. Let me add up how much FULL carbon will come out to :O

dont play arround like that. i was ready to drive up their and burn that t-max to the ground.LMAO

LOL.. im still loling at that thread.. people dont understand.

[MikeK1981]

They make this kit with the TVP's and a skid plate:

http://www.platinumrcproducts.com/prc%20118.html

A little cheaper getting this way.

[MikeK1981]

Then this for a plate. I think he said he has most of the smaller stuff as well like the 250 tank, battery boxes, and the ofna likages and flm servo mounts if I remember correctly.

http://www.platinumrcproducts.com/prc%20125.html

[Hypnotiq]

They make this kit with the TVP's and a skid plate:

http://www.platinumrcproducts.com/prc%20118.html

A little cheaper getting this way.

yeah adding it up and havent even added the midtank at all yet just carbon... im over 200 beanies already! :woo:

[MikeK1981]

I added it up before and I was gonna get everything I need from him to do a mid tank including the servo plate and all the small stuff for $114 including the shipping. Add the $147 for the chassis kit and it is around $261 plus maybe a little more shipping for the chassis, I know some of his prices changed a tiny bit since then so you'll have to add it up to get an exact quote from his site. He was only gonna charge $6 at the time to ship all that stuff minus the chassis.

[Hypnotiq]

I added it up before and I was gonna get everything I need from him to do a mid tank including the servo plate and all the small stuff for $114 including the shipping. Add the $134 for the chassis kit and it is around $250, I know some of his prices changed a tiny bit since then so you'll have to add it up to get an exact quote from his site.

250 TVP setup + Midtank setup
350 Modded Picco
110 ERCM Big Block Side Bleed Pipe

710 Total...

Why did i just add that up.... :tear:
:smilie8:

[MikeK1981]

LOL, that was your first mistake. Just don't get it all at once, it'll make you feel better LOL. Like I said before ignorance is bliss.

[Hypnotiq]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EvtvwA2kQk

giving it a little taste of the snow.. crappy vid though.. more to come tomorrow.

[Crash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EvtvwA2kQk

giving it a little taste of the snow.. crappy vid though.. more to come tomorrow.


hard to shoot and drive .........lol

try my invention, the helmit cam. Duck tape your camera to your head

[Hypnotiq]

got bored today.. i had these laying around. I use these when i modded xbox 1's back in the day..

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/170/img00493200912061745.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/img00493200912061745.jpg/)
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4083/img00494200912061746.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/img00494200912061746.jpg/)

[MikeK1981]

Cool I modded my stock XL body to accept these little LED flashlights that we got for free at this dinner we went to. Each one has 3 blue-white LEDs and are quite bright. The best part is no wiring required, just click them on and off with there own buttons, they come off with the body, and they were the exact same size as the headlight stickers so you can't even tell they aren't stock LOL.

[Hypnotiq]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200415249389

Im to excited... Look whats coming gents!!

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

You will love them! Is a mid tank coming with when they get put on?

[Hypnotiq]

You will love them! Is a mid tank coming with when they get put on?

Black Magic _ Mid-Tank Build
OFNA 250CC Tank
RPM receiver box rcgt10 (black) GOT IT
Ofna Linkage Sliders OFN10704
Ofna Linkage Kit OFN10724
Smoked Fuel Line
FLM Servo Mounts (2)


Am i missing anything?

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

maybe some tanks mounts not sure if you have them or not

[Hypnotiq]

maybe some tanks mounts not sure if you have them or not
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4875/prc125.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/prc125.jpg/)

They come on it..

[I-Hate-Traxxas]

k looka food im not a fan of the rpm battery box cause it hangs off the side but you might like it that is the only thing i would change

[Hypnotiq]

k looka food im not a fan of the rpm battery box cause it hangs off the side but you might like it that is the only thing i would change

Cen radio box looks HUGE. We shall see whats up when i all comes together.

Final touch will be PICCO :chainkiller:

[Hypnotiq]

Things that are on there way..

FLM EXT TVPS anodized black
FLM motor plate
FLM Mid-tank plate
FLM Center Skid Plate
FLM Servo mounts
D8 150CC Tank
Linkage needed

[frddyj]

nice..........

[MikeK1981]

Get the servo plate, skid plate, and motor plate powdercoated black and you'll be golden!

[Hypnotiq]

Get the servo plate, skid plate, and motor plate powdercoated black and you'll be golden!

its in the works... Weighing my options.

[bluesox_68]

very nice!

[wildchild27]

nice but i think i wouldnt even bother gettin the skid plate powdercoated cuz it wouldnt last all that long anyways lol

[Hypnotiq]

nice but i think i wouldnt even bother gettin the skid plate powdercoated cuz it wouldnt last all that long anyways lol

yeah was gonna do everything BUT the skid. :whip:

[MikeK1981]

I don't know, powdercoating is pretty tough and if your running mostly on-road with those phaltlines your probably not going to hit it many things that are gonna scratch it, something like a curb would but...