badazs brushless conversion [Archive]

Jon

07-17-2009, 06:18 PM

well guess ill start documenting my brushless conversion since it seems quite a few people are taking the plunge.

the plans:
castle MMM system
TCS 5mm standard length tvps (cheaper then stockers so these are just to get the build on its feet and mocked up)
flux motor mount and plate
SMC 3s 5500 11.1 bats (2x)
flm servo plate
hyperion duo II charger
flux batt boxes
flux 44t spur
cen diffs
flux bonz and cups
hpi big bores
mulcher tires

and much much more.

i plan to mount the ecs on the servo plate so its better protected.

what im starting with:

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01499.jpg

breakdown: this is also the truck after the bash with freddy, bank, vis, jud and all the others last weekend, truck got a little beat up lol. looks worse then it really was... just broke the wing mount bolts.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01599.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01601.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01603.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01606.jpg

ill get pics of the rest tonight and post tomorrow (what i got so far)
got the tranny back to a 2 speed, all shimmed with the flux spur set up, motor mount and motor plate.
everything has been cleaned and all the bent and broken bolts were replaced.

i have everything on order right now so im hoping to start reciving stuff on monday, only thing left to order will be a charger.

frddyj

07-17-2009, 07:36 PM

imma have to report these photos to the town selectmen. you seem to have stolen quite a bit of billerica bmx sand and transport across state lines.

frddyj

07-18-2009, 08:13 AM

ps. that thing is gonna haul-the-mail with that brushless set up & packs you getting.

very interested in the build & seeing finished product at our bash site rockout

Shaun

07-18-2009, 10:30 AM

imma have to report these photos to the town selectmen. you seem to have stolen quite a bit of billerica bmx sand and transport across state lines.

LOL FRDDY!!!:bigsmilie:

Londoner

07-18-2009, 10:39 AM

Been waiting to watch one of these brushless conversions from the beginning for a while, all the best mate, lookin forward to watchin this one.

Jon

07-19-2009, 08:35 PM

UPDATE:

got the tvp's ill be using (team tcs) ill be using them till the extened version comes out. they are a very nice product, every bolt hole lined up without a problem and the finish is stunning.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01627.jpg

got the motor mount/plate bolted to the trans it mounts a little different then a nitro savy but its pretty straight foward.
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01624.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01629.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01628.jpg

bolted both front and rear end on.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01635.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01638.jpg

NEXT i bolted the battery boxes on. MAKE SURE u bolt these on BEFORE you bolt both tvp's up otherwise you wont be able to get to the mount holes with a screw driver. again its straight foward how they bolt up.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01650.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01663.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01665.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01673.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01653.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01669.jpg

LAST talk about LCG lol
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01660.jpg

Scott

07-19-2009, 09:15 PM

Very nice build you have going on Bad. Can't get over how low that is going to sit..Can't wait to see the finished goods..

Ascender

07-20-2009, 02:11 AM

Before you go any further, yank those battery boxes back off, cut the stupid clips off em, and swap them side-to-side(you'll have to do minor trimming for fit), so the hinges are on the outside. Use either velcro straps or zipties to hold the lids closed. Also,cut the last bit of each lid of behind the "vent" thingy so you have room to pass your battery leads through without crimping them.
Trust me, using those boxes without modifying them is next to impossible, and without straps, the first time you land on the roof, your batteries will eject. HPI really fell on their faces with that bit of design.

Also, if you're using the HPI Torq version of the 2200kv, your leads probably won't reach past the transmission to sit in the the radio box area.

BTW, what's the aluminum crossbar on the rear tower?

frddyj

07-20-2009, 06:24 AM

looks good baddrick. tell the boyz what you paid for those tvps. i dont see how that guy makes any money. theyre pretty sweet.

Jon

07-20-2009, 06:16 PM

thanks guys and yup ascender ill look into all that once i get some batts.

and yup freddy they are sweeet can't beat $20 and they offer 5 colors or something like that and on top of that in about a month or so they will have an extended version.

and yup scott its going to be sweet, im thinking about buying so low pro shock towers but we will see what happens.

Jon

07-25-2009, 03:41 PM

UPDATE::::

i got the flm servo plate the other day and decided to get it mount, and take it from me it takes alot more work then you would think.
first you have to pin point the rear bolt hole for the plate mount since the tvp's dont have it on them, then you drill it out with a 1/8th bit, then i counter sunk it so it matched the rest of the tvp's.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01696.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01695.jpg

i then removed the servo plate and figured out how i wanted to mount the steering servo. i had to drill 2 holes to get the flm mounts to work.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01691.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01692.jpg

i also got the motor fitted. this took ALOT of work because the castle motor's case is different then the flux case. i had to take my dremel and take and sand a full MM around the whole ID of the mounts where the motor slides thru. didnt get any pics of this but heres the finished product.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01686.jpg

here is a mock up of the layout of the servo plate with the ecs, reciver. next to come is a mount for the on/off switch.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01698.jpg

there is alot of work to do this but i think its worth it. its cleaning up the overall look of the truck, lowering the CG, and better distributes the weight.

im having a H*** of a time finding 10 guage wire to add extensions to the motor wire to reach the front of the truck, since ill be running it under the motor plate and transmission to keep the truck looking clean.

i talked to castle about adding extensions to the motor wire and they said its fine with a 4in extension MAX, add anymore and it starts to create problems.

frddyj

07-25-2009, 05:41 PM

looks good. do you think the esc would fit next to the servo if one were to mount the servo in the stock savage X location?

i can get you 10 gauge wire easily. lmk if you want me to caz i can send it out on Monday.

truck looks good, Aug 8th fast approaching and this build is what is selling the most tickets, tick, tick, tick. lol

Neohio

07-25-2009, 05:48 PM

Any best buy, radio shack etc should have 10 ga wiring in their car stereo department.

If you have a best buy or something close, head to the installation dept. They may just hand over scraps of wiring to you. 10 ga is common in entry level stereo systems.

nice build, waiting to see how it looks when it's done.

Jon

07-25-2009, 08:11 PM

yes it does freddy, its a snug fit but works well. im contimplating either keeping this setup or mounting in stock location.. decisions decisions.

and wish it was that simple guys, ive tried 10 stores with not luck on 10 guage high strand count flexible wire. got a few places to try tomorrow but might be hard now that the starter went out on my 1:1 car.

frddyj

07-25-2009, 08:16 PM

theres a car-audio joint here in town, i will stop by when i get a chance & see whats up.

kvnnets

07-25-2009, 08:20 PM

That look great Bad. Man you guys are a talented bunch.

wildchild27

07-25-2009, 08:37 PM

you know you could try a junk yard for 10 gauge wire because some cars and trucks have 10 gauge in what your looking for.

Jon

07-27-2009, 04:02 PM

well ive been getting mixed reviews on extending the motor wire.
ive called castle 2 times now and they says its fine.

everyone on the forum says no lol

here is the info i got from both calls, they are a little different but not much, the only difference is the length i can extend.

1st call, guy said its fine to extend just no more then 4 inches. he said i can either cut the old tip off add the extension and solder a new one on OR cut in the middle of the wire coming off the motor, put the extension in and then solder both joints so its basiclly just reusing the conector the motor comes with.

now the second call came with much more info. i asked the same question.
what i got was:
i can extend it, using the same exact methods as above AND OR i can make a 4 inch extension with a female bullet on one side and a male bullet on the other, then take and either tape off the connectors or use heat shrink so it cant touch anything. (im doing it this way.)

HE ALSO SAID i can miss match the wire with 12gauge wire. the reason is the 10guage wire they use is a specialty wire that is a very high strand count wire. most audio cable is not it has thick strands. he said that he would trust a hobby grade 12gauge wire over the audio grade 10gauge.
he said best stuff would to be find the same 10ga but in a pinch the 12ga will work a treat.
in this call he said don't go any more then a 3 inch extension.
he said the joints will add a little resistance and whatnot but he said its not going to be enough to be concerned about.

it figures cuz i finally found 10 gauge wire lol but ill go back to the hobby shop and get some hobby quality 12 gauge wire, i have to wait for the 6.5mm bullet connectors to come in anyway since the lhs didnt have them... only had 4mm-5.5mm

Bankrupter

07-27-2009, 04:50 PM

well if you go to 12 Ga the 6.5s still fit ?

Jon

07-27-2009, 05:34 PM

Yea I was just thinking about that Im goi g to call castle tomorrow again and see if they will send me some wire or if they know where I can get some. Imm do it right with 10ga. The place Dan linked I belive has the right stuff and I sent them an email asking if it was.

Jon

07-27-2009, 05:35 PM

Actually now that I thinking of it the 6.5mm connectors said 12-gauge I think

Jon

07-29-2009, 04:29 PM

UPDATE:
Got the truck ALL together.... just need the batts, power supply and a pinion gear and finish soldering the batt connectors and its ready to go!

i decided against extending the wires and decided to just run the wires on top, ill be putting them in wire loom to protect them a bit and clean it up, also saves the hassle of making extensions.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01702.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01705.jpg

sits sooooo wide but it will help a little on handling the power plus when i get the extended tvp's it will look better but i still like it.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01706.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01708.jpg

soulja

07-29-2009, 04:55 PM

cool pics dude.......

BUT..............

turn the volume down on those laces! LMAO!!!

Mickey

07-29-2009, 06:45 PM

looking good badd needs a shorter roll bar tho

frddyj

07-29-2009, 07:49 PM

its kill-ah

wildchild27

07-29-2009, 07:53 PM

wat kind of rims are those on that bad boi?

Jon

07-29-2009, 11:14 PM

whats wrong soul not a fan of yellow? lol

thanks alot guys :D
as for the rims they are IMEX rims part number imx7099 found them at the hobby shop.
micky i noticed that to and lowered it by about an inch... its just a "prototype" but ill make a better one when it fails.

did a little more work tonight.

got the rpm box mounted (huge pita) mounted the on/off switch, i lowered the roll bar, re mounted the servo, and mounted the ecs.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01713.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01735.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01719.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01733.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01735.jpg

Scott

07-30-2009, 04:11 AM

Man that thing is sick!!! Looks like them towers are going to work for ya dude..Can't wait to c some vid of that bad boi....

frddyj

07-30-2009, 05:40 AM

got the rpm box mounted (huge pita) mounted the on/off switch,

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01713.jpg

baddrick, why was mounting a p.i.t.a? the rpm box look taller than the esc & might offer 'upside-down skid protection' is it taller or a trick of the camera?

just askin caz i might end up using your set up here. ordered my low-pro shock towers last night so i wanna make sure that esc stays safe ($$$$)

pinkducky

07-30-2009, 08:09 PM

awesome job! post some running videos!

Jon

07-30-2009, 08:23 PM

its about the same freddy
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01733.jpg

and it was a pain to figure out how to mount the box, get the switch in and just the little things that made it anoying lol.

yup scott they work just fine, thanks again.

thanks for the comments guys. keep um coming.

Bankrupter

07-30-2009, 08:42 PM

Im just lost with why it has a on off switch ..

frddyj

07-31-2009, 06:35 AM

baddrick, why was mounting a p.i.t.a? the rpm box look taller than the esc & might offer 'upside-down skid protection' is it taller or a trick of the camera?

just askin caz i might end up using your set up here. ordered my low-pro shock towers last night so i wanna make sure that esc stays safe ($$$$)

NVM badd, i looked at your pics again & found my answer. ESC is more-than well protected by the roll bar.

UPDATE:
Got the truck ALL together.... just need the batts, power supply and a pinion gear

i see a green pinion gear on there already, why you not gonna use that 1?

Jon

07-31-2009, 08:18 AM

yup sure is freddy. what towers u order?
and green one is the one that came in the castle kit, heard its not the right one and the pitch on it is incorrect.

not sure bank i alwasy thought they were to turn the truck on and off lol. j/p everyone says they fail at some point and they just solder the 2 wires together... once it fails ill end up doing that.

frddyj

07-31-2009, 08:37 AM

yup sure is freddy. what towers u order?
and green one is the one that came in the castle kit, heard its not the right one and the pitch on it is incorrect.

k, thanks for the word on the pinion, i'll check & see if its the same story with the hpi version.

i ordered the PRC LCG 138 (6mm, so they is tuff) http://www.platinumrcproducts.com/prc%20138.html

Jon

08-01-2009, 02:07 PM

sweet, cant wait to see your build to.

i got everything together and my charger and power supply have arrived, im only waiting on my batts as of now and just have a little soldering to do before its alive!

sharkattack99

08-04-2009, 03:23 PM

Looks great man cant wait to see some video.

were did you get those TVPs? been looking fror some flux tvps for my brushless build so i can use the flux battery boxes.

Jon

08-04-2009, 06:09 PM

thanks.

they are from team tcs.

http://www.tcscrawlers.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1

Chris

08-04-2009, 07:11 PM

Actually now that I thinking of it the 6.5mm connectors said 12-gauge I think

You can fit 8gauge wire in the 6.5mm Castle connector with a bit of drilling. Also, any high-quality amp wire will be high strand count.

The reason I mention 8gauge is my Hyperion pack came with that size...insane.

Chris

08-04-2009, 07:14 PM

k, thanks for the word on the pinion, i'll check & see if its the same story with the hpi version.

i ordered the PRC LCG 138 (6mm, so they is tuff) http://www.platinumrcproducts.com/prc%20138.html

+1...don't use the green pinions. They are the wrong pitch.

sharkattack99

08-04-2009, 07:17 PM

thanks so much i will check it out.

Ascender

08-04-2009, 11:13 PM

Bad, don't forget you still need to mod those battery boxes...especially with the power leads for the ESC being up front on your set-up. One big tip: swap sides on the boxes...they don't open all the way stock because the roll bar interferes. Also, make sure you have both screws installed in the end mounts. Trust me, the design on those boxes suck, stock, but with a few quick changes, they're very strong.

Jon

08-04-2009, 11:19 PM

ill know what im going to do once i get my batts, thus the reason ive waited till now. i have a plan but just have to see if its going to work with the batts, if it will then there will be no need to mod.
also mine open fully with the roll bar or atleas 85-90% of the way which should be enough, but like i said got to wait till the batts come tomorrow :) thanks for looking out.

Ducman82

08-06-2009, 08:11 PM

i know this is a dumb question, but on the elec trucks does the motor brake for you? i dont see a servo for brakes.

Jon

08-06-2009, 08:12 PM

UPDATE!!!!!
i remounted the servo back under the flm servo plate and remounted the ecs using a "SPECIAL" bracket made by non other then TRAXXAS! worked good lol i also used double sided sticky tape so this ecs is going NOWHERE. I also remounted the switch to the ecs mount.... the holes on the flm plate were close enough to mount the ecs mount so i didnt have to drill new holes.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01739.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01741.jpg

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http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01745.jpg

i also modded the battery boxes.
i used the soft side of the velcro around the hole so it wouldnt cut the wire.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01749.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01751.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01754.jpg

i then took one of the pieces of high density foam included with the boxes and cut a recess out for the chargeing plug that is on the battery so it wouldnt harm it.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01759.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01758.jpg

I ALSO modded a standard size flm skid plate to work with the team tcs tvp's. the downside of these tvp's is there isnt a skid plate for them... well i changed that, i drill 4 holes that lined up with the 4 mounts on the plate, then i took the back 2 inches or so and bent it to match the bend in the tvp's it came out great and looks sweet.

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01761.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01763.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01770.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01769.jpg

Chris

08-06-2009, 08:13 PM

i know this is a dumb question, but on the elec trucks does the motor brake for you? i dont see a servo for brakes.

Not a stupid question at all!

Yes, the motor acts as the brake.

pinkducky

08-06-2009, 09:33 PM

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01761.jpg

What screws are those bud? I prefer hex rather than the stock's.

Jon

08-06-2009, 09:37 PM

these are them... worst $16 (i bought them outside of ebay) i have ever spent.... they strip way to easy
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370229190888&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

the best stainless hex screws ive gotton are these... they strip but not as easy as the ones above....
http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-Savage-X-STAINLESS-STEEL-SCREW-KIT-OVER-200-PIECES_W0QQitemZ120454372361QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRad io_Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1c0ba3dc09&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

pinkducky

08-06-2009, 11:06 PM

Jon

08-06-2009, 11:12 PM

i have not used those so i wouldn't know if they are worth it... you can be the guinea pig for those babies! lol

pinkducky

08-06-2009, 11:21 PM

I will let you know when I use them. Be glad to be your experiment ;-) LOL!

Ducman82

08-07-2009, 09:07 AM

ya depending on what the people on the air force base i will be moving to next month think of my picco, i might have to go brushless. (you would think that jets make more noise and they would be use to it...)

frddyj

08-07-2009, 01:14 PM

im looking forward to seeing this in person tomm.

Jon

08-07-2009, 06:56 PM

your not the only one freddy lol

LAST UPDATE!! the build is not complete.

i got everything soldered up and ready to plug and play all thats left is to charge the batts and go bashin!

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01779.jpg

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/DSC01783.jpg

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Magoo

08-07-2009, 08:08 PM

all I can say is wow, I can't wait to see that rig run. Frddyj make sure you got those camera batteries charged!

kvnnets

08-07-2009, 08:27 PM

That's an awsome build bad. You have some great talent.

Scott

08-07-2009, 10:45 PM

Nice build there BA. Can't wait to see the vids...

MikeK1981

08-07-2009, 11:36 PM

Your truck looks sweet, so nice and clean in those pics I almost can't imagine it covered in dirt... Almost LOL! I don't have much experience with electric power but I just saw video of a Flux HP with upgraded electronics and a pair of LiPo's doing standing backflips by hitting the throttle! Crazy, I never knew LOL!

Ascender

08-08-2009, 10:24 AM

That thing is beautiful! Can't wait to see it run. Don't forget to strap your battery boxes!

Mickey

08-08-2009, 10:28 AM

looks good badd cant wait to see a vid of it in action .( just make sure to make the engine noises when you vid it lol)

Chris

08-08-2009, 11:38 AM

looks good badd cant wait to see a vid of it in action .( just make sure to make the engine noises when you vid it lol)

Those brushless motors make plenty of noise...hehe.

Jon

08-08-2009, 10:25 PM

ok so it was an INTERESTING AND FUN FILLED DAY to say the least at the bash with freddy, bank, jud, baileiz and magoo today lol.

when i first got to the bash site i knew i had to charge the batts WELL i didnt know you needed different wires to charge the batts and balance SO i had to make a quick run down to hobby fever to get the right plugs thankfully they had what i needed.
got back to the site, plug the charger into my car batt and bank proceded to program it and read the directions since i hate reading..... after bout 15 mins it was ready everyone was jumping away from the car after hearing the horror stories about the batts catching fire and what not so i was the brave soul that held the enter button to commence charging.... all went well lol and after 55 mins i had 2 completely charge batts.

NOW TO THE GOOD PART, i was skeptical of plugging the batts into the esc as i didnt want to see flames or smoke but i got over it and pluged them in and all was good for all of 2 mins... we turn the truck on and hear beeps (we were all electric noobs so didnt know what it ment lol) bank proceded to read the (drivers ed) book and we figured out how to sync the remote the the reciver and what not... after reading the book and on the LAST STEP i was fooling with the trigger and as bank read "and the truck is now armed" the truck JUMP unexpectingly at full trottle hitting me in the arm and shooting rocks allll over the place as everyone was taking cover i walked to the truck to shut it off... well the idiot that i am shut the TX off before getting to the truck and what do ya know the dam thing goes full throttle back flips lands on its lid and all i see is a tire go shooting under banks car and pieces just fly EVERYWHERE.
i stripped the pinion gear, the knuckle exploded into 3 pieces the anntena broke off the RX and blew the bead on a second tire.... all within 1 min of plugging the dang batts in... lol

to be continued....

Jon

08-08-2009, 10:36 PM

well now that i knew what NOT to do we proceded to the bmx track were i wrenced for about 1-2hrs to get the truck back together and i had to borrow a spectrum from JUD since my antenna was basiclly lost.... at this point i would say "pluging in batts" and as i say it everyone would get as far away from the truck as they could lol
got it running and played around for about 2 mins then i nailed the throttle and found that i only had FWD, i brought it in closer and me being and idiot AGAIN nail the throttle and all you see is the front wheels get huge and a foam go flying about 15ft from the truck, the foam ripped into 3 different pieces lol, thankfully the reason i had FWD was that the set screw in the pinion cup backed out.... brought the truck into the pits to also find ANOTHER BROKEN motor pinion.... bank went to touch the spur and burnt is hand lol it got near 300* since the locknut backed out.
i wrenched another 1-2 hrs and go to get the truck going and find that the stupid switch is fried on the esc so now i got some work to do...

Magoo

08-09-2009, 08:11 AM

Man that was a great day! I will say DO NOT let a child use one of these. BA's setup is crazy. Good times! The only one that did not run their truck is Frddyj. BA we will need to check out your neck of the woods some point before the summer is over, it sounded really cool. Good luck wrenching on that beast and I can't wait for it to run for more then a min or two before it destroys itself.

kvnnets

08-09-2009, 09:33 AM

That suck's bad. I have come to realize that the best part of this hobby is taking things apart. More wrench time that run time.

Jon

08-09-2009, 11:05 AM

hope u dont mind freddy, putting the one vid up so far here aswel since not everyone will read the other thread..

more to come...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFcwLFgdy6c

MikeK1981

08-09-2009, 11:59 AM

LOL! Wow, you know... I really don't think your producing enough power with that setup. JK LOL!

Mickey

08-09-2009, 12:01 PM

man it looks like it might be fast but will it hold together

frddyj

08-09-2009, 12:52 PM

man it looks like it might be fast but will it hold together

my vote is that it will hold. keep in mind that badd got this build together very quickly (mostly so i could see it before i go on hiatus) to the point where his first charge was actually at the bash.

he dint get a chance to test or get to know the truck before it went out on the bash course.

with that being said, i say he goes back & makes adjustments & he's good to go.

***1 footnote***

this truck will still be more than capable of blowing itself to smithereens no matter how you build it.

MikeK1981

08-09-2009, 01:04 PM

LOL, yeah I guess no matter what you got there is a way to break it one way or another.

Jon

08-09-2009, 05:52 PM

VERY true freddy, im sure it will only get better with time.

Jon

08-09-2009, 09:06 PM

here is the final vid, has everything from the broken parts to the little run time... enjoy!
language advisory! i have a potty mouth....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmX5i5Fvr3A

Chris

08-10-2009, 09:06 AM

my vote is that it will hold. keep in mind that badd got this build together very quickly (mostly so i could see it before i go on hiatus) to the point where his first charge was actually at the bash.

he dint get a chance to test or get to know the truck before it went out on the bash course.

with that being said, i say he goes back & makes adjustments & he's good to go.

***1 footnote***

this truck will still be more than capable of blowing itself to smithereens no matter how you build it.

Having built one very quickly...I can say from experience that you should take your time building a brushless with this kinda power. I wasn't patient enough the first time either!! haha

Magoo

08-10-2009, 09:32 AM

your right fred I did throw you under the bus... you were busy with helping out getting BA's up and running.

timaneli

08-10-2009, 10:37 AM

i have seen the vid and you have way too much torque on that beatiful build savage...
you will never put that power on the ground with all that torque!!

regards

frddyj

08-10-2009, 12:42 PM

your right fred I did throw you under the bus... you were busy with helping out getting BA's up and running.

by the time we reached the track, i already missed the greatest opportunity for video so i wasnt about to miss another.

i have seen the vid and you have way too much torque on that beatiful build savage...
you will never put that power on the ground with all that torque!!

regards

to this i say "Muhhuhhhaaaahahaaaa!!! " evil clown

Jon

08-10-2009, 12:58 PM

lol we will see about that! i have major plans for this beauty so stay tuned!!

I-Hate-Traxxas

08-10-2009, 01:28 PM

So what is next for this beast?

Scott

08-10-2009, 01:30 PM

Man BA that has some wicked A$$ power..Can't wait to see a vid when you can keep it all together...So what plans do you have in store for this wicked beast?

Chris

08-10-2009, 01:59 PM

i have seen the vid and you have way too much torque on that beatiful build savage...
you will never put that power on the ground with all that torque!!

regards

Helps to have all that in a truggy, but the way this build is going helps a LOT. hehe

Jon

08-11-2009, 03:29 PM

not sure IHT at this point its just getting the truck to last more then 5 mins before exploding lol.

i should be able to run it again by the end of the week. only thing is i need to find a on/off switch that can handle the power as mine lasted 5 mins then failed.. CHRIS need some help here lol.

and i dont want to eliminate the switch i want one so that is not an option at this point.

Magoo

08-11-2009, 03:41 PM

hehe from the sounds of it, you are going to need a light switch!

Magoo

08-11-2009, 03:46 PM

But really, get a toggle switch with a cover. Like you see in the movies. That would look nice right in front of the rear tower protected.

Sparc

08-11-2009, 03:53 PM

I can run the switch by my local electronics place if you give me the voltage and current it needs to handle. They have just about anything you could need.

MikeK1981

08-11-2009, 04:01 PM

But really, get a toggle switch with a cover. Like you see in the movies.

LOL, yeah like the kind that they use in the movies right before they fire the nukes LOL!

MikeK1981

08-11-2009, 04:02 PM

ON my mark! 3... 2... 1... Fire! LOL!

I-Hate-Traxxas

08-11-2009, 04:34 PM

Yeah that video was pretty funny tho it gave me a good laugh anyway

frddyj

08-11-2009, 04:35 PM

does the switch commonly burn out on flux's and castle mmm's?

Chris

08-11-2009, 07:36 PM

does the switch commonly burn out on flux's and castle mmm's?

It shouldn't...I'm using a standard off-the-shelf R/C receiver switch in my 8T. I cycle that switch a lot with no failure yet.

Jon

08-11-2009, 09:20 PM

can you link me to one chris?

sparc, im not sure what amount of current actually "goes" to the switch so i wouldn't know. i know the esc is getting 22.2 volts but of that i have not an idea of that actually goes to the switch itself.
ive heard many people say there switch fails and they just take the two wires and connect them but i do not want to eliminate the switch in my eyes its just another thing to help in shutting off power really fast.

Sparc

08-11-2009, 10:18 PM

Is the switch between the batts and the esc or is it just a receiver switch? If it's a receiver switch I have no idea why it is burning out, as they should not ever see enough current.

Jon

08-11-2009, 10:20 PM

It shuts power off to everything

frddyj

08-12-2009, 06:07 AM

enough talking, when you gonna run this truck again?

kvnnets

08-12-2009, 03:50 PM

enough talking, when you gonna run this truck again?

When he's sure the truck will not blow itself and everyone within 10 ft up. LOL.

Chris

08-12-2009, 06:24 PM

It shuts power off to everything

The ESC controls which parts see what voltage...the switch just cuts power to the ESC. The ESC supplies 6v to the receiver.

Jon

08-12-2009, 06:51 PM

the switch doesnt plug into the rx its attached to the esc. if you turn it on then it powers the esc and rx(esc starts beeping), turn it off it shuts power off to everything.

frddyj

08-12-2009, 06:56 PM

When he's sure the truck will not blow itself and everyone within 10 ft up. LOL.

lol kvn. if that were tru, no one would ever run a flux again.... ever!

kvnnets

08-12-2009, 07:00 PM

lol kvn. if that were tru, no one would ever run a flux again.... ever!

LOL. I'm just trying to raz him abit.

Jon

08-12-2009, 08:20 PM

what truck doesn't break? ;) ill get a run maybe friday. working tomorrow and i have class on Saturday, so hopefully Friday if no rain.

Jon

08-13-2009, 06:50 PM

MORE VIDEO!

THIS THING IS CRAZY!!!
in the vid you see the truck stop dead a few times, its cuz the stupid on/off switch is messed up. (ill send to castle, im not messing with it i decided)
VID 1
http://s550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/?action=view&current=MOV01849.flv
VID2
http://s550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/?action=view&current=MOV01853.flv
VID 3
in this one it goes to FWD (the pinion cups set screw came loose AGAIN!)

http://s550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/?action=view&current=MOV01854.flv

pinkducky

08-13-2009, 07:19 PM

Mickey

08-13-2009, 09:45 PM

thats nuts bad gonna have to weld that screw in there, running that kind of power

frddyj

08-14-2009, 06:36 AM

your build is awesome Jon. what a fun truck. can't wait to see you run it in person

Crash

08-14-2009, 07:47 AM

That is Baddasz

nitro kill'a

Sparc

08-14-2009, 06:21 PM

I have now seen this beast in person. Its the coolest RC I have ever seen.

Jon

08-14-2009, 08:22 PM

thinking about drilling a hole in the pinion, that set screw is driving me nuts..

thanks guys it has been a ton of fun and i enjoy this truck 20 times more then when nitro, its just brings a smile everytime.

went to the track today with sparc and had some fun, was a little hot but worth it. truck ran good other then the set screw and slipper, the switch worked perfect to.

here is a vid from today

http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/th_MOV01857.jpg (http://s550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/brushless%20conversion/?action=view&current=MOV01857.flv)

necromaster

08-14-2009, 10:30 PM