New Flux and some questions

[what the FLUX]

Here she is
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0520.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0518.jpg
Aussie dollar sux.

I got a couple of hop-ups as well, GPM LST shocks and IRC conversion
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0491.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/x-parts.jpg
as well as XL axles and Integy rear carriers. Yes I know Integy, we'll see.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/lhpic6249.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/lintc7768.jpg


I fitted the carriers and axles.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0523.jpg
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I'm not to impressed with the stock hex. Is there a 17mm conversion for the XL? One that doesn't fall apart every time you take the wheel off and has 17mm nuts.


With the IRC conversion kit I am trying to keep it as low as possible, so I'm not going to use the inner mounting points on the arms,
(The spring retainers are touching the braket on the arms, so I'll need to shave a little off the ends of the brackets and it should be fine)
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0534.jpg
or the outer points on the towers. But I need 20mm longer screws.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0540.jpg


Going with the Axial beadlocks and Big Joe's. 4 of the stock tyres are the same width as 3 of the joe's, damn their wide.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0537.jpg


Now to my questions. I've never had electric RC's so I know absolutely FA.
The leads from the motor, can I just unplug them from ESC? I'd like to run the battery leads under them to make it tidier
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0532.jpg
Are PolyQuest lipo's a good quality battery? I'm think of getting some of there 6000mah packs. Don't know wether to go 2S or 3S though.
If I go with the 3S is it possible to program the ESC so it's not a drivetrain destroying beast, and have 2S performance with longer run times.
I going to use my 3PM 2.4 TX, do I program the ESC same way with 3PM RX, the same as I would with the HPI RX?

I had some other stuff I wanted to know about, but can't think of it right now so I'll post more questions when I think of them.
Thanks guys.

A few more pix.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0527.jpg
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[]-[0pa]0ng]

That's one wicked setup. IRC has never been known for cutting flimzy parts. His parts are stout. Having 3 savages is enough for me but hell that Flux has me with the I wannas. Have fun with it. Let us know whats good and what sux.

[FluxedSavage]

The flux is pretty fun and wayy over powered. You will love the thing and if you do go with the 3S packs tune it down with the castle link. Its insane pain and simple.

One thing I dont understand is those losi shocks they look redick to me. Why do people switch to them? The stock shocks are fine. It's the drivetrain that needs upgrading IMHO.

[what the FLUX]

Thanks guys. Well so far I think the the stock hex set-up sux, always falls a part.
I like the look of the beefy LST's, although the red is pretty bad, but that will change. I might change back if these can't handle being exposed out front.

[frddyj]

can someone with rich parents talk them into adopting me please... nice truck & upgrade parts, good luck with it, im sure you'll love playin it.

[what the FLUX]

can someone with rich parents talk them into adopting me please... nice truck & upgrade parts, good luck with it, im sure you'll love playin it.


:lmao: The tax man paid for mine :FarleyParty:

[what the FLUX]

Got another question. Manual states M3x15mm screws for the diff cups, but will 16mm fit?

I ordered some hexcrews to replace all the phillips head, and used the exploded view to get the quatities, and only realized today I forgot the diff cup screws, so I'm hoping 16mm will be ok.

Also ordered a pair of Polyquest 3s 6000xp's, Xtreme Racing straps, RRP 20t pinion and a spare drive gear. Hopefully they all get here before next weekend and I can give it it's first kanning then. :D

I modified the carriers I took off
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0558.jpg
and add cooling holes to the body.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0563.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0565.jpg

[sgm182]

Nice upgrades so far!

Those Big Joes are monsters...

[what the FLUX]

sgm182 :Xfingers:. With the XL axles and Big Joe's it's 489mm/19.25" wide.

:cheers:

[what the FLUX]

Here's some pix before tear down
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0569.jpg
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http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0578.jpg
in pieces
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0581.jpg

[what the FLUX]

The Hexcrews arrived today so I can start doing some rebuilding, but I'm still waiting for shims and some other stuff so I can't complete it yet, unfortunately.
Hexheads
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0591.jpg
Will the threads of the screws be a problem in the carriers?
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0595.jpg
The bulks, awaiting the shims
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0593.jpg
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The leaking was from the grease that they cake the outside of the diffs with. Why do hpi do that? I wont be redoing it. Only the rear diff needs side to side shimming may need one or two shims on both pinions though.
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Tranny needs shimming
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0619.jpg
I'll need to shim behind the slipper too.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0647.jpg
Filed down the corners of the arm mounts to clear the spring retainers
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0603-1.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0604.jpg
Trimmed carriers
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0634.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0635.jpg

[what the FLUX]

Update she back together.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0687.jpg
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I got 2 of the short versions of the Proline Baja Bug, they are apparently savage size bodies and they're too short. :duh:
It needs the long version and the high body mount on the rear to mount at the top of the rear window, instead of mounting it below the wing mounts like I did with this body. That way you get to keep the engine on the body. It still look half decent I think.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0750.jpg
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[Shaun]

nice build my friend!!

[Jon]

thing looks good but its sooooo short O.o needs some extended chassis

[what the FLUX]

I hear ya Badass. It's 19" wide and only 20" long. I'm thinking of going desert boy, limited body chooses is the only problem.

[sgm182]

Definatley needs the bigger sized body. Looks awesome though dude.

[Combuster]

that flux looks pretty awesome :resp:

[what the FLUX]

Thanks guys.

I got the lipo plugs done at RC Garage in Bayswater, Vic. Great guys/store. I stuffed 2 plugs practicing and it was cheaper a pay them to fit'em then to buy more plugs. :lmao3: But I'll keep practicing.
While I was there I got myself a new charger a Swallow EQ. Has an in built balancer old one doesn't.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0792.jpg
So she's all charged up and ready to rock. Sunset beat the charger.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0805.jpg


I'm trying out an Outerwears pre-filter over the ESC fan. I'll do a better job of fitting it after I had some fun. It should just fit tightly over the base.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0795.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0801.jpg


When I trimmed the carriers, I only took off a little because I wasn't sure how they'd hold up to hard bashing. I took the same amount from both sides of the uprights, but I've got more turn in (113%/ \ before binding) then out (93%\ /) on both sides, so I've set the EPA to the lesser 93%. Am I missing somethings? How much can I safely take off the uprights and still bash hard? Any aluminium carriers worth buying for bashing? Thanks.

[FluxedSavage]

Nice packs!!! Your the only other person ive seen with them. Most people dont buy them because according to the spces they won fit in the stock battery boxes. But they do, perfectly! I got 4 of them and I'm pretty happy.

[what the FLUX]

It dried out today so I finally got to get my first run. All was going well she was flying for about 10 mins then it started slowing down and finally stopped, motor was warm not hot. I had a look and pinion and spur were still turning but not the tail-shafts. I didn't bring all my tools so that was it for today. The bead-locks held up fine for the time I got to run, I've taped the Big Joe's so there was only a very small amount of ballooning, but they need balancing.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0814.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0815.jpg
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At first I thought the predictions had come true and I'd slipped the trans, but on closer inspection at home the slipper was just spinning, So I've tighten that and I'll give her another go tomorrow, if it's not wet out.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0822.jpg
loose
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0820.jpg
tighten
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0824.jpg
While I had the tvp off I fitted the pre-filter completely over the base.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0825.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0827.jpg


Nice packs!!! Your the only other person ive seen with them. Most people dont buy them because according to the spces they won fit in the stock battery boxes. But they do, perfectly! I got 4 of them and I'm pretty happy.

Yeah, I wasn't sure they'd fit, but after reading your thread I when ahead and got them, thanks man. I've left the foam in the boxes so they don't fit perfect in mine. I've taken out the hinge pins for easier battery installation so it's not a problem.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0770.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0772.jpg

[what the FLUX]

:dmt:The ESC burst into flames after only 2-3 minutes running on sunday. :cussing:

The pre-filter wasn't such a good idea.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0863.jpg
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[RcWheeling]

have you called hpi yet??

[what the FLUX]

I e-mailed them but haven't had a reply yet. I might have to give them a call.

[RcWheeling]

you'll get a better response by calling

[what the FLUX]

Got around to paint the Baja body. It took a couple of attempts to get the checkers to fit/look right. There's a little bleeding on the body line but other then that I think it turned out pretty damn good. :loveford:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0889.jpg
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[sgm182]

Sure is bright in here lol.

Looks good man I like it.

[Shaun]

looks sweeeet!!! thanks for sharing.......

[frddyj]

any updates? did HPI warranty your ESC?

[what the FLUX]

I've got the new Flux 45t spur, RRP pinions 14/15/16t and slipper pads. I still don't know about the ESC, it has been a nightmare. I contacted HPI in the US, and about ten days later got a reply telling me I'll have to contact HPI Japan. I didn't get any reply from them after three e-mails and a few weeks. So I e-mail the store in Australia were I brought it and they said they'd return it to HPI for me. It's now been 3 1/2 weeks and still no joy. So I decided it would been easier to just buy a new one, but now Tower has none in stock until late July :duh: and that will probably end up been mid August. FFFFAAARRRKKK :istupid:

[frddyj]

ouch bro,that hurts. your lid came out killer btw.

[what the FLUX]

I got a new ESC :rock: it should be here next week sometime. I have fitted the new flux 45t spur, RRP 14t pinion and slipper pad. I wish HPI make bigger spur gears because it's going to be a PITA to set the mesh. I had to notch the motor plate mount to get enough adjustment on the mount for a good mesh. Now the outside screws are under the TVP, so I'm going to have to set the mesh using the other screws, then remove the motor plate with the motor attached, tighten the last two screws then refit it. Here a few shot of the progress.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0931.jpg
The heat of frying the slipper stuffed the locknut, so I replaced it with nice new shiny one. :bling:
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0946.jpg
DOH!!
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0964.jpg
Thanks to a round ba$tard. :lmao3:
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That a bit better.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF0979.jpg
There a little worse for wear, or should that be ignorance. :retarded::bigsmilie: I'm going to shorten the motor wires about 50mm for a neater fit, instead of having to fold them under the body mount.

I also got a question, the pinion doesn't quite come to the end of the motor shaft, is that OK. Or should I file a little more flat onto the shaft, so I can move the pinion back making it level? Thanks.

[frddyj]

nice work. let us know how it works out. funny how the swear filter wont let you say the name of your file, lol

[Ascender]

As long as the shaft isn't more than one or two mm deep inside the gear, you should be fine. Lots of guys are using the Novak pinion with no problems just like that.

And HPI does make a 52T steel spur, but you'd have to use a larger pinion(16T) to get the gearing right, so you might not be able to fit that ratio in with a 52T...

[what the FLUX]

Will do Freddy. Yeah, I had to do the file gag, couldn't help meself. :istupid:

I thought about get Robinson's 48t steel spur, but I wasn't sure if the spur gears were interchangeable between nitro and electric, so I got the flux 45t, probably should have got the 48t, but oh well. If I get sick of having to rip the motor & trans out every time I try a different pinion, I'll get the bigger spur. I've really got 15t and 16t pinions. Thanks Ascender.

Also cut my wheel balancer base just need to get a longer shaft.
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[Snuffleupagus]

The TCS chassis are very trick! We ordered 2 of them and are waiting to install them. Hopefully no more bent TVP's!!!!

Bryan

[Ascender]

lol, Bryan. Unless you're doing that World Finals Long Jump as a regular thing, I don't think you have to worry about bending the TCS stuff. It'll tear the screws out of the plastic long before it'll bend.

[what the FLUX]

Well my new ESC finally arrived today, I got the new TCS TVP's last week, and hopefully I'll get the carbon fibre wing mount and RX plates in the next couple of weeks, so I can get my beast back together.
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I'm been working on a new wheelie bar. It will mount to the skid plate and wing mount. Also moving the ESC up front.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF1022.jpg

[Scott]

Man just checked out this post dude..That is one sick a$$ flux you have there dude..

[what the FLUX]

Your to kind, thanks Scott.

[what the FLUX]

Got my Carbon Fibre wing mount & customised PRC125 (250cc tank plate) yesterday thanks J.
I can't use the outer IRC shock brace on the back now with the wing. Anyone know if just using washer to hold the shocks on the standoffs will cause me problems?
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF1098.jpg
Just gonna use an old beat up wing for now.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF1107.jpg

I had drill a hole in my TCS tvp,s to mount the rear support of the RX plate. I also countersunk the servo mount holes so I could move the ESC up front and secure it with a BL Revo mount. Turn out pretty sweet I think. Upgraded to an Associated XP DS1015 servo too.
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:cool:
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[Londoner]

Awesome truck mate!! Looks great!

Iv got a PRC wing plate on its way too and using LST shocks w/I-RC LST kit, iv moved the whole rear shock assembly to the front of the tower/arm, leaving the whole rear of the tower free for the wing plate/stay.

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww35/fourtwenty2009/001-14.jpg

http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww35/fourtwenty2009/003-15.jpg

[what the FLUX]

Thanks mate. That a good idea I could probably do that now with the ESC out of the way. Cheers.

[Londoner]

No worries mate, i was trying to figure out how i was gonna work it with the I-RC kit and PRC wing plate, id seen others on here with the shocks on the front so i thought thats probably the best option.

[what the FLUX]

Yeah, I've seen them too, just wasn't thinking. I did a quick mock up it it should easierly clear the tvp. Thanks for reminding me.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn205/REVO_46/Savage%20FLUX/DSCF1110.jpg

[nitrorich]

nice truck im trying to sell my nitro savage to go to eletric either a e savage or a e max less breakige i think nitros stall you have to chace them battary what can go wrong other than dead battarys

[Crash]

nice truck im trying to sell my nitro savage to go to eletric either a e savage or a e max less breakige i think nitros stall you have to chace them battary what can go wrong other than dead battarys

I would say they are simliar with adavantage nitro actually. The drive train suffers from the power of bl

although the E Savage you mentioned is not bl

the new E Maxx is bl

[Bankrupter]

nice truck im trying to sell my nitro savage to go to electric either a e savage or a e max less breakage i think nitros stall you have to chace them battery what can go wrong other than dead battery's

yea if you drive a Flux to its full potential you will be buying parts every other run. E savage I dont see as entertaining

[fluxhappens]

do the GP< LST shocks mount right up without any modification and are they better than the stock big bore?

[kvnnets]

do the GP< LST shocks mount right up without any modification and are they better than the stock big bore?

I think the LST shocks require slight modding from what I hear. Not sure about GP shocks. Big Bores are better than both imo.

[fluxhappens]

should i invest in better springs, the stock one's seem a little soft?

[kvnnets]

should i invest in better springs, the stock one's seem a little soft?

For what type of shocks are you reffering to?

[redneck]

vid of this beast plz mate

[what the FLUX]

Yeah Kev is right on both counts, you'll need longer standoff's for the shock to clear the tower. I used IRC's lst mounting kit.
http://www.innovative-rc.com/full-upgrade-p-323.html?osCsid=0a174a9611172a62ecf7800e830780a4
I think the majority of people who've used both, would tell you the big bore are better. I chose the LST's for the look, they are HUGE.

[what the FLUX]

redneck, I started another thread on the rebuild http://www.hpisavageforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12662 theres a short vid in post #52, I'll try and do a longer/better one this week.

[fluxhappens]

how does the beast handle with the Big Joe's? do the inner rings rub against anything up front? They did on my Summit but not to bad? Or do you need to get the xl axles?

[what the FLUX]

how does the beast handle with the Big Joe's? do the inner rings rub against anything up front? They did on my Summit but not to bad? Or do you need to get the xl axles?

It was very stable with the joe's, but not gearing down with that set up did fry the ESC. On mine I trimmed the upright and carriers for more steering and used XL axles, and I think(it been that long since I set it up) I had to back off the epa just a little to stop the ring rubbing.

[angellewalsh]

id adjust the shock location holes.your lower arms are sqating you whant the lower arms as stright as possible for better handeling